Dear all,
The email below was already circulated in December 2004 on the TC6 list.
As you can see, Alfred Hofmann from Springer LNCS justifies the 30% difference between IFIP-LNCS and "standard" LNCS as a way to compensate the royalties paid to IFIP.
This is highly questionable, as under article 31e of the "AGREEMENT BETWEEN IFIP AND SPRINGER SCIENCE+BUSINESS MEDIA" I read:
"Royalties to IFIP for volumes published in IFIP LNCS will be paid as a one-time advance publication fee upon publication of the respective volume, and will be 10% of the estimated total sales of the volume, excluding bulk sales."
Best regards, Guy
From: Alfred.Hofmann@springer-sbm.com To: Guy.Leduc@ulg.ac.be Cc: spaniol@informatik.rwth-aachen.de, Alfred.Hofmann@springer-sbm.com Subject: AW: IFIP publications in LNCS Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:55:48 +0100
Dear Guy Leduc:
Thank you very much for your mail regarding publication of the proceedings resulting from IFIP WG 6.1 conferences/workshops in LNCS, now under the IFIP-LNCS clauses of the IFIP-Springer contract.
I am well aware of your role for IFIP WG 6.1 and of your scientific work generally; indeed, I had been knocking at your office door when I visitied Andre Danthine at Liege (now quite some time ago). Your analysis of what out of the WG 6.1 activities had been published so far in LNCS is accurate and in accordance with my understanding. I also would take this opportunity to express my thanks to IFIP WG 6.1 and you personally for publishing in LNCS at time when this still was not officially agreed upon.
As to your question about the status of the six 2005 events listed in your mail regarding publication in LNCS, I do not see any problem: some/most of these six meetings are accepted (at least in principle), and given the previous publication record of these meeting in LNCS, evaluation of the inquires in discussion with the LNCS series editors is rather a matter of formality. So, please take it from this message that all six meeting can and will be published in LNCS also in 2005. There is other new inquireis refering to the IFIP Springer/LNCS Agreement which do casue more problems (due to the less technical orientation of some of them).
Below, I attach the general terms for IFIP-LNCS publication. Roughly speaking, compared to standard (non-IFIP) LNCS, a list price mark-up of around 30 % is applied in order to compensate for the publication fee we have to pay IFIP for these proceedings. Regarding complimentary copies and discsounts for buying conference copies the same terms are applied like for standard LNCS; no mimimum underwriting guarantee is imposed to workshop/conference organizers for buying a certain number of their books, small workshops in principle can do with the 50 free copies alone.
If you have further questions I would be happy to talk to you on the phone; I am sure we will have an opportunity to meet in person at some conference (somewhere/somewhen).
I look forward to cooperating with you and the organizers of IFIP WG 6.1 events for publication of these proceedings in LNCS.
Best regards, Alfred
Alfred Hofmann Springer Editorial Director Computer Science
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As to the financial side, no royalties are paid for editing LNCS Proceedings, however a standard number of 50 free copies of the book are given to the editor(s). Additional copies needed for distribution at the meeting or to contributing authors etc. can be bought at a discount of (at least) 45 % off the list price; this discount is increased to 47.5 % or 50 %, etc. if at least 100 copies or at least 200 copies, etc. are bought (respectively). For proceedings with more than some 750 pages, the aforementioned discounts can be (slightly) improved as well as the number of free copies.
The list price of an IFIP-LNCS Proceedings essentially depends on the number of pages needed, as shown in the 2004 IFIP-LNCS Proceedings Price List below. Please note that, besides the cost for the books also the transportation cost has to be covered. Please note that, besides the costs for the books, the transportation costs also have to be covered and that there might be a slight price increase for 2005.
2004 IFIP-LNCS Price List ********************************************************* NET LIST PRICES FOR LECTURE NOTES IN COMPUTER SCIENCE published in cooperation with IFIP (effective: February 1, 2004) NUMBER of PAGES EUR up to 250 58.00 251-300 63.00 301-350 68.00 351-400 73.00 401-450 78.00 451-500 83.00 501-550 88.00 551-600 93.00 601-650 98.00 651-700 103.00 701-750 108.00 751-800 113.00 The page number ranges refer to the total number of pages needed (i.e. Roman numbered front matter pages plus Arabic page count). This list gives the full EUR list prices. For bulk orders of conference proceedings a discount off these list prices is granted; this discount depends on the number of copies bought. In addition to the cost for books shiped to conferences, the transportation cost has to be covered. The list prices of volumes with more than 800 pages are calculated individually. As a rough approximation, EUR 4.00 are to be added for each additional 50 pages needed beyond 800 pages; there are (slight) reductions for high printrun titles or two-volume proceedings.Von: Guy Leduc [mailto:Guy.Leduc@ulg.ac.be] Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. November 2004 14:01 An: Hofmann, Alfred, SV Cc: Otto Spaniol Betreff: IFIP publications in LNCS
Dear Mr. Hofmann,
I've been the chairman of IFIP WG6.1 since April 1998.
Our Working Group has been the sponsor (or sometimes co-sponsor) of several conferences and the following proceedings have already been published in LNCS:
Middleware (IFIP is main sponsor, ACM and USENIX are co-sponsor)
Middleware 5 Lake District UK 1998
Middleware 6 New York USA 2000
Middleware 7 Heidelberg Germany 2001
Middleware 8 Rio de Janeiro Brazil 2003
Middleware 9 Toronto Canada 2004
IWQoS (IFIP is co-sponsor with IEEE Communication Society)
IWQOS 9 Karlsruhe Germany 2001
IWQOS 11 Monterey, CA USA 2003
FORTE (IFIP is full sponsor)
FORTE 22 Houston (Texas) USA 2002
FORTE 23 Berlin Germany 2003
FORTE 24 Madrid Spain 2004
TESTCOM (IFIP is full sponsor)
Testcom 15 Sophia Antipolis France 2003
Testcom 16 Oxford UK 2004
FMOODS (IFIP is full sponsor)
FMOODS 6 Paris France 2003
DAIS (IFIP is full sponsor)
DAIS 4 Paris France 2003
As WG chair I always advised our conference organizers to publish the proceedings in LNCS (despite the fact that the IFIP official publisher was KAP).
Now, the new contract between IFIP and Springer Science + Business Media, and in particular its article 38, specifies explicitely that IFIP proceedings can be published in IFIP LNCS, and I am strongly in favour of this.
For 2005 you've probably been already sollicited by several organisers of our events. Otherwise, I'd like to inform you that we would like to publish the following proceedings in IFIP LNCS:
Middleware 10 Grenoble France 2005
FORTE 25 Taipei Taiwan 2005
Testcom 17 Montreal Canada 2005
FMOODS 7 Athens Greece 2005
DAIS 5 Athens Greece 2005
IWQOS 13 Passau Germany 2005
Could you let me know if you agree?
Note in particular that IWQOS has been mostly published by IEEE (the co-sponsor) so far, but some organizers sometimes prefer LNCS. In 2005, they are contemplating the possiblity to publish in LNCS again, and I would like to confirm that this is indeed possible.
In particular, I would appreciate receiving the data concerning the bulk price of LNCS volumes for organizers.
I'm looking forward to reading you.
Guy Leduc IFIP WG6.1 chair
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