Dear all,
I'd like to trigger the TC6 people responsible for Autonomic Networking 2007.
I've seen nothing yet (no web page, no CfP, etc.) and I guess the CfP deadline will have to be in April.
Can I again insist on the fact that Autonomic Networking (AN) is supposed to become our second flagship conference in TC6 (after Networking), and it is more than important to schedule this carefully and without delay.
To achieve this, a reliable and proactive steering committee is absolutely necessary.
So first of all, I'd like to renew the Steering Committee of Autonomic Networking.
The current steering committee is: R. Boutaba (University of Waterloo, CA) P. Chemouil (FT, FR) I. Chlamtac (Create-Net, IT) R. Popescu Zeletin (Fokus, DE) F. Sestini (European Commission, EC) J. Strassner (Motorola Research Labs, USA)
I'd like to see there only reputed scientists and no "political" people. It should also be IFIP TC6 driven.
Could we agree on a couple of individuals in this steering committee soon and also launch AN 2007 as soon as possible?
If I remember correctly J. Strassner is the general chair of AN 2007 and will likely organize an ACF Forum meeting associated with it. Do we have any TPC co-chairs designated? If not, it's more than urgent. I'd suggest to have two TPC co-chairs, one from Europe and one from the USA. This should be decided soon by the conference chair and the steering committee.
In the steering committee, we need people who will actually steer AN and make it grow to a successful and respected scientific event (and we are far from that). The steering committee is not supposed to be a VIP committee, but a (pro)active body. Moreover AN is not meant to be a sort of IST event, nor an ACF forum event, and certainly not a CREATE-NET event... Otherwise, we will only attract bad papers... It's already hard for IFIP events to attract good papers, so we should not deteriorate this further.
I'd suggest to have the chairs of WG6.2 (G. Carle), WG6.6 (R. Boutaba) and WG6.7 (D. Gaiti) in this committee. The scopes of these WGs are related to Autonomic Networking.
We could also have a steering member representing the ACF forum (but one is enough according to me), and another one representing the WAC conference (who ???). BTW, are we sure WAC will be part of AN this year?
Also, a steering committee chair will have to be designated among them, otherwise nothing moves forward, as obviously demonstrated so far for AN 2007.
Sorry for being a bit harsh, but the issue is crucial. IFIP has a clear deficit in international reputation, and the names in the steering committee (and in the TPC too) have to convey the right message to the community.
If we feel that we have also to open the AN steering committee to one or two other reputed scientists clearly involved in Autonomics, that's fine by me. Just suggest names.
Comments and suggestions are urgently more than welcome!
Best regards, Guy
Dear Guy,
Guy Pujolle and I met John Strassner for this purpose among others in Bruxels, 5 days ago. Of course we discussed about renewing the actual steering committee. We asked Simon Dobson (chairman of WAC 2006) to be part of the steering committee (he accepted). We think to keep Radu as the ACF representative (John Strassner as the chairman of the conference is not in the steering). Guy Pujolle and I will be in the steering as the past co chairs of the AN 2006 conference. We still discuss the location of the conference. I received a message today from John Strassner for that. WAC will be a part of this conference (the same way than in Paris). We have the date: October 2 - 5. Best regards Dominique ps: we thought with John Strassner to include Olli Martikainen and you (Guy Leduc!) in the steering as the past TPC chairs of Smartnet and IWAN.
Guy Leduc a écrit :
Dear all,
I'd like to trigger the TC6 people responsible for Autonomic Networking 2007.
I've seen nothing yet (no web page, no CfP, etc.) and I guess the CfP deadline will have to be in April.
Can I again insist on the fact that Autonomic Networking (AN) is supposed to become our second flagship conference in TC6 (after Networking), and it is more than important to schedule this carefully and without delay.
To achieve this, a reliable and proactive steering committee is absolutely necessary.
So first of all, I'd like to renew the Steering Committee of Autonomic Networking.
The current steering committee is: *R. Boutaba (University of Waterloo, CA) P. Chemouil (FT, FR) I. Chlamtac (Create-Net, IT) R. Popescu Zeletin (Fokus, DE) F. Sestini (European Commission, EC)* *J. Strassner (Motorola Research Labs, USA)*
I'd like to see there only reputed scientists and no "political" people. It should also be IFIP TC6 driven.
Could we agree on a couple of individuals in this steering committee soon and also launch AN 2007 as soon as possible?
If I remember correctly J. Strassner is the general chair of AN 2007 and will likely organize an ACF Forum meeting associated with it. Do we have any TPC co-chairs designated? If not, it's more than urgent. I'd suggest to have two TPC co-chairs, one from Europe and one from the USA. This should be decided soon by the conference chair and the steering committee.
In the steering committee, we need people who will actually steer AN and make it grow to a successful and respected scientific event (and we are far from that). The steering committee is not supposed to be a VIP committee, but a (pro)active body. Moreover AN is not meant to be a sort of IST event, nor an ACF forum event, and certainly not a CREATE-NET event... Otherwise, we will only attract bad papers... It's already hard for IFIP events to attract good papers, so we should not deteriorate this further.
I'd suggest to have the chairs of WG6.2 (G. Carle), WG6.6 (R. Boutaba) and WG6.7 (D. Gaiti) in this committee. The scopes of these WGs are related to Autonomic Networking.
We could also have a steering member representing the ACF forum (but one is enough according to me), and another one representing the WAC conference (who ???). BTW, are we sure WAC will be part of AN this year?
Also, a steering committee chair will have to be designated among them, otherwise nothing moves forward, as obviously demonstrated so far for AN 2007.
Sorry for being a bit harsh, but the issue is crucial. IFIP has a clear deficit in international reputation, and the names in the steering committee (and in the TPC too) have to convey the right message to the community.
If we feel that we have also to open the AN steering committee to one or two other reputed scientists clearly involved in Autonomics, that's fine by me. Just suggest names.
Comments and suggestions are urgently more than welcome!
Best regards, Guy
--
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Dear Dominique,
OK, so things are moving forward. Good news!
Regarding your proposal, I'm not sure the natural members of the SC are necessarily the past co-chairs of all the tracks. This policy will trigger changes every year. The SC needs some stability as well, at least a few years. This is why I proposed the WG chairs, which is the normal TC6 policy, and WG chairs have 3-year terms, which seems good. There may be exceptions of course, and a WG chair could delegate someone else (e.g. a vice-chair, as in WG6.1), or TC6 could change this policy on a case-by-case basis. This is why I decided to address this issue at the TC6 level.
IWAN has been virtually disbanded (rather than merged in AN), so I don't see myself as a member of the SC. I could be there as TC6 chair, but if the involved WGs are well represented in the SC I don't see why I should be there either.
Smartnet and Intelcomm have more or less the same scope and the same people involved. So one representative may be enough. Keep the SC reasonable in size.
Finally, we need US people in the SC. Your proposal is too European centric to me. The usual mistake in IFIP.
Best regards, Guy
At 7:48 PM +0100 3/7/07, dominique gaiti wrote:
Dear Guy,
Guy Pujolle and I met John Strassner for this purpose among others in Bruxels, 5 days ago. Of course we discussed about renewing the actual steering committee. We asked Simon Dobson (chairman of WAC 2006) to be part of the steering committee (he accepted). We think to keep Radu as the ACF representative (John Strassner as the chairman of the conference is not in the steering). Guy Pujolle and I will be in the steering as the past co chairs of the AN 2006 conference. We still discuss the location of the conference. I received a message today from John Strassner for that. WAC will be a part of this conference (the same way than in Paris). We have the date: October 2
Best regards Dominique ps: we thought with John Strassner to include Olli Martikainen and you (Guy Leduc!) in the steering as the past TPC chairs of Smartnet and IWAN.
Guy Leduc a écrit :
Dear all,
I'd like to trigger the TC6 people responsible for Autonomic Networking 2007.
I've seen nothing yet (no web page, no CfP, etc.) and I guess the CfP deadline will have to be in April.
Can I again insist on the fact that Autonomic Networking (AN) is supposed to become our second flagship conference in TC6 (after Networking), and it is more than important to schedule this carefully and without delay.
To achieve this, a reliable and proactive steering committee is absolutely necessary.
So first of all, I'd like to renew the Steering Committee of Autonomic Networking.
The current steering committee is: *R. Boutaba (University of Waterloo, CA) P. Chemouil (FT, FR) I. Chlamtac (Create-Net, IT) R. Popescu Zeletin (Fokus, DE) F. Sestini (European Commission, EC)* *J. Strassner (Motorola Research Labs, USA)*
I'd like to see there only reputed scientists and no "political" people. It should also be IFIP TC6 driven.
Could we agree on a couple of individuals in this steering committee soon and also launch AN 2007 as soon as possible?
If I remember correctly J. Strassner is the general chair of AN 2007 and will likely organize an ACF Forum meeting associated with it. Do we have any TPC co-chairs designated? If not, it's more than urgent. I'd suggest to have two TPC co-chairs, one from Europe and one from the USA. This should be decided soon by the conference chair and the steering committee.
In the steering committee, we need people who will actually steer AN and make it grow to a successful and respected scientific event (and we are far from that). The steering committee is not supposed to be a VIP committee, but a (pro)active body. Moreover AN is not meant to be a sort of IST event, nor an ACF forum event, and certainly not a CREATE-NET event... Otherwise, we will only attract bad papers... It's already hard for IFIP events to attract good papers, so we should not deteriorate this further.
I'd suggest to have the chairs of WG6.2 (G. Carle), WG6.6 (R. Boutaba) and WG6.7 (D. Gaiti) in this committee. The scopes of these WGs are related to Autonomic Networking.
We could also have a steering member representing the ACF forum (but one is enough according to me), and another one representing the WAC conference (who ???). BTW, are we sure WAC will be part of AN this year?
Also, a steering committee chair will have to be designated among them, otherwise nothing moves forward, as obviously demonstrated so far for AN 2007.
Sorry for being a bit harsh, but the issue is crucial. IFIP has a clear deficit in international reputation, and the names in the steering committee (and in the TPC too) have to convey the right message to the community.
If we feel that we have also to open the AN steering committee to one or two other reputed scientists clearly involved in Autonomics, that's fine by me. Just suggest names.
Comments and suggestions are urgently more than welcome!
Best regards, Guy
--
Prof. Guy Leduc Phone : +32 4 366 26 98 Université de Liège Secr : +32 4 366 26 91 Réseaux Informatiques Fax : +32 4 366 29 89 Research Unit in Networking (RUN) Email: Guy.Leduc@ulg.ac.be EECS Department, Institut Montefiore, B 28, B-4000 LIEGE 1, BELGIUM http://www.run.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/People/GuyLeduc/
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Dear Guy,
congratulations for your courage to use clear words!
I am very confident that your effort in shaking up the right people will be very helpful for AN 2007 to become a good event.
Best regards,
Georg
Guy Leduc wrote:
Dear all,
I'd like to trigger the TC6 people responsible for Autonomic Networking 2007.
I've seen nothing yet (no web page, no CfP, etc.) and I guess the CfP deadline will have to be in April.
Can I again insist on the fact that Autonomic Networking (AN) is supposed to become our second flagship conference in TC6 (after Networking), and it is more than important to schedule this carefully and without delay.
To achieve this, a reliable and proactive steering committee is absolutely necessary.
So first of all, I'd like to renew the Steering Committee of Autonomic Networking.
The current steering committee is: *R. Boutaba (University of Waterloo, CA) P. Chemouil (FT, FR) I. Chlamtac (Create-Net, IT) R. Popescu Zeletin (Fokus, DE) F. Sestini (European Commission, EC)* *J. Strassner (Motorola Research Labs, USA)*
I'd like to see there only reputed scientists and no "political" people. It should also be IFIP TC6 driven.
Could we agree on a couple of individuals in this steering committee soon and also launch AN 2007 as soon as possible?
If I remember correctly J. Strassner is the general chair of AN 2007 and will likely organize an ACF Forum meeting associated with it. Do we have any TPC co-chairs designated? If not, it's more than urgent. I'd suggest to have two TPC co-chairs, one from Europe and one from the USA. This should be decided soon by the conference chair and the steering committee.
In the steering committee, we need people who will actually steer AN and make it grow to a successful and respected scientific event (and we are far from that). The steering committee is not supposed to be a VIP committee, but a (pro)active body. Moreover AN is not meant to be a sort of IST event, nor an ACF forum event, and certainly not a CREATE-NET event... Otherwise, we will only attract bad papers... It's already hard for IFIP events to attract good papers, so we should not deteriorate this further.
I'd suggest to have the chairs of WG6.2 (G. Carle), WG6.6 (R. Boutaba) and WG6.7 (D. Gaiti) in this committee. The scopes of these WGs are related to Autonomic Networking.
We could also have a steering member representing the ACF forum (but one is enough according to me), and another one representing the WAC conference (who ???). BTW, are we sure WAC will be part of AN this year?
Also, a steering committee chair will have to be designated among them, otherwise nothing moves forward, as obviously demonstrated so far for AN 2007.
Sorry for being a bit harsh, but the issue is crucial. IFIP has a clear deficit in international reputation, and the names in the steering committee (and in the TPC too) have to convey the right message to the community.
If we feel that we have also to open the AN steering committee to one or two other reputed scientists clearly involved in Autonomics, that's fine by me. Just suggest names.
Comments and suggestions are urgently more than welcome!
Best regards, Guy
--
Prof. Guy Leduc Phone : +32 4 366 26 98 Université de Liège Secr : +32 4 366 26 91 Réseaux Informatiques Fax : +32 4 366 29 89 Research Unit in Networking (RUN) Email: Guy.Leduc@ulg.ac.be EECS Department, Institut Montefiore, B 28, B-4000 LIEGE 1, BELGIUM http://www.run.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/People/GuyLeduc/
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