---------------- Anfang Weiterleitung ---------------- Betreff: Re: [Ifip_tcchairs] The New IFIP Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Mai 2006 13:07 Uhr Von: Sebastiaan von Solms basie@rau.ac.za An: eduard.dundler@ifip.org , Ifip_tcchairs@ifip.org , spaniol@informatik.rwth-aachen.de , brunnstein@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Dear Otto
Thanks for your message and TC 6's comments. I must say I am surprised at the unacademic and unscientific comments made by TC 6! My basic impression is that the document was not properly read, because somebody did not like the idea.
No motivation whatsoever is given, and several aspects were just highlighted out of context.
I just mention 2 of TC 6's comments which just support the idea that the document was not properly read (or maybe understood?) :
(From TC 6's comments) : 1. For example, to write that "IFIP must leverage (exploit) its position as the only trusted body of international pre-eminent experts in the field of ICT and ....." is absurd and shows a total lack of understanding of the work of the IEEE, ACM, the ITU, etc.
This sentence comes from the part of the document where the reactions from TC's were evaluated and combined. Nowhere in later formulation is it stated that IFIP is and should be the ONLY such body. This is a na*ve interpretation in the first place!
This comment clearly indicates that the document was not properly read.
(From TC 6's comments) : 2. Spending money on a "marketing manager" to market items which IFIP does not have is certainly a total waste of IFIP funds
Again this interpretation is a clear indication that the document was not properly read, because nowhere it the document is it stated that this person must 'market IFIP items' It specifically states that this person must try to determine what services IFIP can render, and not market anything!!
TC 6 thinks that this document, with input and ideas from most TCs (including TC 6!), 'demonstrates a disturbing lack of knowledge of IFIP's real workings and capabilities' (sic)'!
I however feel that TC 6's reaction , demonstrates a disturbing lack of knowledge of the real problems which is facing IFIP.
However, with direct and indirect support from all the remaining TCs and SG, the document will probably be discussed at the Strategy meeting.
I will therefore report to the meeting that TC 6 do not support the model in the document, because I personally think they have not properly read it, or do not understand it.
If TC 6 wants to convince me otherwise, please do so with a motivated reply.
Basie.
"Otto Spaniol" spaniol@informatik.rwth-aachen.de 05/22/06 9:33 AM >>>
Dear Basie and others,
in addition to my recent message here is a somewhat more detailed comment on "New IFIP and DL".
Best regards Otto Spaniol (TC6 chair)
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