Dear colleagues,
meanwhile I found out a little more about the new Kouvatsos event.
There are two other IFIP delegates within the 151 committee members. - Villy Baek Iversen (who was not contacted by Kouvatsos and had never heard of the event before; probably he is in the list since they included a lot of people from the Euro3GI proposal which has just been submitted to the EU - and Villy Baek is like me a member of the enormous list of partners). - Ioannis Stavrakakis (the new 6.3 chairman) who is said to have accepted to act as a co-chair for one of the tracks - maybe without telling him anything about side effects which this might have for TC6.
Indeed, if you make a Google search for "Ilkley Kouvatsos" you will find interesting information such as the following (see below) which was sent to SIGMETRICS and which says that HET-NETs "follows the earlier series of IFIP events on the performance modelling and evaluation of ATM & IP networks". I'm quite suprised that apparently IFIP TC6 was not at all informed about this successorship. This is another example of "how to make (much!) money by using the name of IFIP TC6". As a certain consolation: It is good that it is still possible to make money out of our institution even if we by ourselves are not really the most clever people to make profit out of it.
Best regards Otto Spaniol
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Subject: HET-NETs '03 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: ACM SIGMETRICS Performance Bulletin Board sigmetrics@haven.csm.ornl.gov Reply-To: d.d.kouvatsos@scm.brad.ac.uk To: sigmetrics-bb@haven.csm.ornl.gov
Dear Colleagues,
FIRST INTERNATIONAL WORKING CONFERENCE ON PERFORMANCE MODELLING AND EVALUATION OF HETEROGENEOUS NETWORKS (HET-NETs '03) ILKLEY, U.K., 21-23 JULY, 2003.
The HET-NETs '03 Working Conference follows the earlier series of IFIP events on the performance modelling and evaluation of ATM & IP networks. The event has useful links with the major EU funded project "IASON" dealing with the design and development of a generic performance evaluation platform for services interoperability and networks. "IASON" involves strong industrial participation and the co-ordinator of the project, Dr. Michael Dopfer, Head of Information and Communication Mobile Networks/Mobile Core, Munich (Siemens AG), Germany, has kindly accepted to act the Co-Chair on the special track on 'Performance Measurement Platforms'. Moreover, the conference is organised in collaboration with the proposed EU Network of Excellence (NoE) Consortium "Euro-3Gi" which involves over 50 of the very best EU research groups focusing on the design and dimensioning of the 3rd generation Internet. Professor Daniel Kofman, ENST-INFRES Institute, Paris, France, the co-ordinator of "Euro-3Gi", has kindly agreed to act as the Co-Chair for the special track on 'Performance Modelling Studies' concerning the convergence of multiservice heterogeneous networks. Finally, Professor Ioannis Stavrakakis, Head of Communication Networks Lab (CNL), Department of Informatics & Telecommunications, University of Athens, has kindly accepted to act as the Co-Chair for the special track on Methodologies and Analytic Tools. It is envisaged that the latter track may also attract a few contributions from other application areas of discrete flow systems, where new analytical advances might be of relevance to the performance modelling of telecommunication systems of diverse technologies.
There is already a lot of enthusiasm and support from colleagues for the staging of HET-NETs '03 at international level. Your research group is cordially invited to participate and make a technical input. It is envisaged that the event will make an effective contribution to both structuring research in the performance modelling field and spreading the excellence worldwide.
All the very best,
Demetres Kouvatsos
Dear Otto and TC6 colleagues,
During the past month of February Demetres Kouvatsos sent me and Plamen a draft proposal for the HET-NETs'03 Conference so that it could be supported by IFIP TC6. I replied to Demetres reminding him of our past decision in TC6 for not supporting the continuation of his conferences in Ilkley and that any proposal for a new series of conferences related to WG 6.3 (the title of the conference was Performance Modelling and Evaluation of Heterogeneous Networks) should be proposed by its chairman, Ioannis Stravakakis. In the meantime no reference to IFIP name should be made in the annoucement.
After these events I contacted Ioannis, who himself spoke to Demetres and indicated that he would like to discuss the past events in the next TC6 meeting in Budapest before proceeding with the support of WG 6.3 for a new event. Therefore, there was a confirmation of Ioannis towards Demetres of no support for this event by TC6 until we meet in Budapest.
I was preparing the meeting documents, where all these mails are included for your information and I was surprised when I received Otto's message today. This is the reason why I have sent a message to Guy Pujolle to enquire if Demetres has contacted him and if WG 6.2 has made any commitment to support this Workshop, not knowing what has happened since February between myself, Ioannis and Demetris. I am waiting for the reply from Guy Pujolle to have a full picture of what has happened. I will keep you informed.
Best regards
Augusto
-----Original Message----- From: ifip-tc6-bounces@lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE [mailto:ifip-tc6-bounces@lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE]On Behalf Of Otto Spaniol Sent: sexta-feira, 2 de Maio de 2003 16:14 To: ifip-tc6linformatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: [ifip-tc6] More about HET-NETs 03
Dear colleagues,
meanwhile I found out a little more about the new Kouvatsos event.
There are two other IFIP delegates within the 151 committee members. - Villy Baek Iversen (who was not contacted by Kouvatsos and had never heard of the event before; probably he is in the list since they included a lot of people from the Euro3GI proposal which has just been submitted to the EU - and Villy Baek is like me a member of the enormous list of partners). - Ioannis Stavrakakis (the new 6.3 chairman) who is said to have accepted to act as a co-chair for one of the tracks - maybe without telling him anything about side effects which this might have for TC6.
Indeed, if you make a Google search for "Ilkley Kouvatsos" you will find interesting information such as the following (see below) which was sent to SIGMETRICS and which says that HET-NETs "follows the earlier series of IFIP events on the performance modelling and evaluation of ATM & IP networks". I'm quite suprised that apparently IFIP TC6 was not at all informed about this successorship. This is another example of "how to make (much!) money by using the name of IFIP TC6". As a certain consolation: It is good that it is still possible to make money out of our institution even if we by ourselves are not really the most clever people to make profit out of it.
Best regards Otto Spaniol
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Subject: HET-NETs '03 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:25:07 -0500 (EST) From: ACM SIGMETRICS Performance Bulletin Board sigmetrics@haven.csm.ornl.gov Reply-To: d.d.kouvatsos@scm.brad.ac.uk To: sigmetrics-bb@haven.csm.ornl.gov
Dear Colleagues,
FIRST INTERNATIONAL WORKING CONFERENCE ON PERFORMANCE MODELLING AND EVALUATION OF HETEROGENEOUS NETWORKS (HET-NETs '03) ILKLEY, U.K., 21-23 JULY, 2003.
The HET-NETs '03 Working Conference follows the earlier series of IFIP events on the performance modelling and evaluation of ATM & IP networks. The event has useful links with the major EU funded project "IASON" dealing with the design and development of a generic performance evaluation platform for services interoperability and networks. "IASON" involves strong industrial participation and the co-ordinator of the project, Dr. Michael Dopfer, Head of Information and Communication Mobile Networks/Mobile Core, Munich (Siemens AG), Germany, has kindly accepted to act the Co-Chair on the special track on 'Performance Measurement Platforms'. Moreover, the conference is organised in collaboration with the proposed EU Network of Excellence (NoE) Consortium "Euro-3Gi" which involves over 50 of the very best EU research groups focusing on the design and dimensioning of the 3rd generation Internet. Professor Daniel Kofman, ENST-INFRES Institute, Paris, France, the co-ordinator of "Euro-3Gi", has kindly agreed to act as the Co-Chair for the special track on 'Performance Modelling Studies' concerning the convergence of multiservice heterogeneous networks. Finally, Professor Ioannis Stavrakakis, Head of Communication Networks Lab (CNL), Department of Informatics & Telecommunications, University of Athens, has kindly accepted to act as the Co-Chair for the special track on Methodologies and Analytic Tools. It is envisaged that the latter track may also attract a few contributions from other application areas of discrete flow systems, where new analytical advances might be of relevance to the performance modelling of telecommunication systems of diverse technologies.
There is already a lot of enthusiasm and support from colleagues for the staging of HET-NETs '03 at international level. Your research group is cordially invited to participate and make a technical input. It is envisaged that the event will make an effective contribution to both structuring research in the performance modelling field and spreading the excellence worldwide.
All the very best,
Demetres Kouvatsos
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