Dear all,
please find enclosed the minutes of meeting 2004/1 in Athens (May 14+15, Athens), Thanks once again to: - Ioannis Stavrakakis for the perfect organisation of the meeting - Peter Radford for the careful writing of the meeting minutes.
Best regards Otto
Hi all,
1. In section 6, the following sentence is incorrect:
"Action Point (AP61/17): Guy Leduc: to continue to look for a host for the Workshop on Network Signalling."
I think it's an AP for Guy Pujolle.
2. In section 11, I thought Raouf Boutaba was also involved.
3. In section 13 (WG6.1): the following sentence and AP are incorrect:
"The steering committees need updating, following the resignation of Stefan Fischer). Action Point (AP62/10): Guy Leduc: to update membership lists of steering committees."
All WG6.1 steering committees have been reused, and the resignation of S. Fischer has no impact because he was not involved in Steering Committees. So, I suggest to remove these lines.
These corrections should also be made in the annex (oustanding APs).
Best regards, Guy
At 15:39 +0200 17/06/04, Otto Spaniol wrote:
Dear all,
please find enclosed the minutes of meeting 2004/1 in Athens (May 14+15, Athens), Thanks once again to:
- Ioannis Stavrakakis for the perfect organisation of the meeting
- Peter Radford for the careful writing of the meeting minutes.
Best regards Otto
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Dear Otto, Peter, deepak
To my recollection, the discussion regarding the publication of IM proceedings is not clearly reflected in the section related to WG6.6 of the minutes as well as in Action Point (AP62/11).
My understanding of the discussion during the Athens meeting is to negotiate with IEEE Communications Society (not the Computer Society as reported) the publication of IM proceedings and its inclusion in the IEEE digital library. For this IFIP will give up the copyright for IM and in return will receive the royalties IFIP usually receives from Kluwer.
Based on this outcome, I have initiated the negotiation with IEEE ComSoc and we are in the process of drafting an agreement with this respect to be submitted to both IFIP and ComSoc for approval.
Regards
Raouf
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Dear all,
please find enclosed the minutes of meeting 2004/1 in Athens (May 14+15, Athens), Thanks once again to: - Ioannis Stavrakakis for the perfect organisation of the meeting - Peter Radford for the careful writing of the meeting minutes.
Best regards Otto
Dear Raouf (and all other delegates),
To my recollection, the discussion regarding the publication of IM proceedings is not clearly reflected in the section related to WG6.6 of the minutes as well as in Action Point (AP62/11).
My understanding of the discussion during the Athens meeting is to negotiate with IEEE Communications Society (not the Computer Society as reported) the publication of IM proceedings and its inclusion in the IEEE digital library. For this IFIP will give up the copyright for IM and in return will receive the royalties IFIP usually receives from Kluwer.
I don't remember that we have made so concrete decisions, namely "giving up the copyright and receive royalties in turn". It would be good if some delegates would respond in order to confirm or disconfirm.
Based on this outcome, I have initiated the negotiation with IEEE ComSoc and we are in the process of drafting an agreement with this respect to be submitted to both IFIP and ComSoc for approval.
IFIP is preparing a new publication contract. The content of that contract is still confidential but: - the new contract will be valid from January 2005 - its conditions are very good (to my opinion) - the contract will be much more binding for us than in the past (where we did do essentially what we wanted, i.e. publication A with publisher X, publication B with publisher Y etc.). From 2005 onwards, every publication of an IFIP event must be offered first to the official IFIP publisher. It will have to be seen whether IFIP will agree with the abovementioned proposal of selling copyright against royalties.
Best regards Otto
Dear Otto and everyone,
At 8:57 +0200 5/07/04, Otto Spaniol wrote:
Dear Raouf (and all other delegates),
To my recollection, the discussion regarding the publication of IM proceedings is not clearly reflected in the section related to WG6.6 of the minutes as well as in Action Point (AP62/11).
My understanding of the discussion during the Athens meeting is to negotiate with IEEE Communications Society (not the Computer Society as reported) the publication of IM proceedings and its inclusion in the IEEE digital library. For this IFIP will give up the copyright for IM and in return will receive the royalties IFIP usually receives from Kluwer.
I don't remember that we have made so concrete decisions, namely "giving up the copyright and receive royalties in turn". It would be good if some delegates would respond in order to confirm or disconfirm.
My understanding was Raouf's.
Based on this outcome, I have initiated the negotiation with IEEE ComSoc and we are in the process of drafting an agreement with this respect to be submitted to both IFIP and ComSoc for approval.
IFIP is preparing a new publication contract. The content of that contract is still confidential but:
- the new contract will be valid from January 2005
- its conditions are very good (to my opinion)
Given the following paragraph I'm wondering in which sense the conditions are very good...
Best regards, Guy
- the contract will be much more binding for us than in the past (where we did do essentially what we wanted, i.e. publication A with publisher X, publication B with publisher Y etc.). From 2005 onwards, every publication of an IFIP event must be offered first to the official IFIP publisher.
It will have to be seen whether IFIP will agree with the abovementioned proposal of selling copyright against royalties.
Best regards Otto
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Dear Guy (Leduc),
thank you very much for your comments.
Given the following paragraph I'm wondering in which sense the conditions are very good...
- the contract will be much more binding for us than in the past (where we did do essentially what we wanted, i.e. publication A with publisher X, publication B with publisher Y etc.). From 2005 onwards, every publication of an IFIP event must be offered first to the official IFIP publisher.
The requirement that IFIP (and TC6 in particular) has to offer every proceedings first to the IFIP publisher was always valid but the behaviour of TC6 (namely to have a real "zoo" of publishers) was tolerated without any enthousiasm; the reason for that was that IFIP knew very well that Kluwer was much too expensive for many event organisors.
In the new contract the financial conditions are much more attractive for the organisors. Thus the high price per copy cannot be considered any more as an excuse for choosing another publisher. Considering the visibility of IFIP and the branding of the name "IFIP" it will be indeed better to have a single powerful publisher for all IFIP events.
Best regards Otto
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Guy Leduc -
Otto Spaniol -
Raouf Boutaba