Dear all,
here is a message from Roberto Sabella (RM/ERI) roberto.sabella@ericsson.com who feels concerned about the future of ONDM conference series.
Many things are not fully clear to me here: for example, I didn't know that apparently a selection procedure for a new chairman of WG 6.10 has been initiatied (without a mandate from TC6 !) and that somebody is known (not to me!) who would directly become the new chairman of WG 6.10. Formally at least, this person will have to be approved by the TC6 delegates.
ONDM was held the last time in 2005 by Achille Pattavina: Working Conference; 9th Optical Network Design and Modelling Conference (ONDM'2005 or - new proposed name - Optical Networks 2005); WG 6.10; 9-11 February 2005; Milano; Prof. Dr. Achille Pattavina Phone:+39-02-2399.3580 Fax: +39-02-2399.3413 Email contact: pattavina@elet.polimi.it URL: http://www.elet.polimi.it/conferences/ondm2005/
This was number 9 already in this series. Since then it has disappeaed form the scenery. I believe that something was planned in Copenhagen (Lars Dittmann?) but I'm not fully sure.
There are no information from WG 6.10 about upcoming events, most other WG's have given their input for the adaptation of the TC6 calendar.
The problem with ONDM will have to be treated in Coimbra.
Best regards Otto
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Dear Otto,
the reason why I am writing you is that I am worried and concerned about the way ONDM is doing in the last years. Unfortunately, my engagement prevented me to be more active in the activities of WG 10 on optical networks and in the organization of the conference itself. However, I care that conference that I contribute to launch in the first years, organizing the second edition in Roma (1998) and organizing workshops inside that conference on hot topics inviting highly reputed experts worldwide.
An easy evalution of the ONDM evolution during the years can be done using measurable parameters, such as the number of participants to the conference, the number of published papers, and possibly the number of books that have been purschased. If the ONDM conference was successful those numbers had to increase significantly. In addition, there is another parameter that is not easily measured that is the quality of papers.
I tried to rise this question with the chairman of WG 10, in occasion of the election of the co-chairman that, according to what he said, would directly become the new chairman of WG 10.
I think in fact that if the ONDM was re-launched, IFIP could benefit having a good brand to manage. I also think that the co-support of IEEE could be useful to further enlarge the community of perspective authors. In my opinion, if the scientific community of ONDM become large, IFIP can leverage on it, and organize other relevant initiatives such as edited books, lecturers and so forth, pushing the brand of IFIP.
In all, I wish to ask you to rise that problem in order to find good solutions within our community.
Best regards
Roberto
Dear Otto
ONDM 2006 is a disaster, and I am not going to add anything else to what Villy said in his email.
Please do not refer to ONDM as being renamed to Optical Networks. I have explained to you in several emails that my proposal to create a new conference called Optical Networks died a long time ago. Refering to this conference as Optical Networks will only aggrevate further the situation and accentuate the mistrust and misunderstandings between some WG 6.10 members and me.
ONDM is going to recover quite nicely next year. It is going to be organized by a very able person. I will provide dates and names of future ONDM conferences in my report.
For reason that are too many to mention in an email, I decided to get a co-chairman. We had proper nominations, and currently we are voting. This co-chairman will take over from me next year, when my time is up. I will provide details and request approval of this person at the upcoming TC6 meeting.
Harry
Dear all,
here is a message from Roberto Sabella (RM/ERI) roberto.sabella@ericsson.com who feels concerned about the future of ONDM conference series.
Many things are not fully clear to me here: for example, I didn't know that apparently a selection procedure for a new chairman of WG 6.10 has been initiatied (without a mandate from TC6 !) and that somebody is known (not to me!) who would directly become the new chairman of WG 6.10. Formally at least, this person will have to be approved by the TC6 delegates.
ONDM was held the last time in 2005 by Achille Pattavina: Working Conference; 9th Optical Network Design and Modelling Conference (ONDM'2005 or - new proposed name - Optical Networks 2005); WG 6.10; 9-11 February 2005; Milano; Prof. Dr. Achille Pattavina Phone:+39-02-2399.3580 Fax: +39-02-2399.3413 Email contact: pattavina@elet.polimi.it URL: http://www.elet.polimi.it/conferences/ondm2005/
This was number 9 already in this series. Since then it has disappeaed form the scenery. I believe that something was planned in Copenhagen (Lars Dittmann?) but I'm not fully sure.
There are no information from WG 6.10 about upcoming events, most other WG's have given their input for the adaptation of the TC6 calendar.
The problem with ONDM will have to be treated in Coimbra.
Best regards Otto
Dear Otto,
the reason why I am writing you is that I am worried and concerned about the way ONDM is doing in the last years. Unfortunately, my engagement prevented me to be more active in the activities of WG 10 on optical networks and in the organization of the conference itself. However, I care that conference that I contribute to launch in the first years, organizing the second edition in Roma (1998) and organizing workshops inside that conference on hot topics inviting highly reputed experts worldwide.
An easy evalution of the ONDM evolution during the years can be done using measurable parameters, such as the number of participants to the conference, the number of published papers, and possibly the number of books that have been purschased. If the ONDM conference was successful those numbers had to increase significantly. In addition, there is another parameter that is not easily measured that is the quality of papers.
I tried to rise this question with the chairman of WG 10, in occasion of the election of the co-chairman that, according to what he said, would directly become the new chairman of WG 10.
I think in fact that if the ONDM was re-launched, IFIP could benefit having a good brand to manage. I also think that the co-support of IEEE could be useful to further enlarge the community of perspective authors. In my opinion, if the scientific community of ONDM become large, IFIP can leverage on it, and organize other relevant initiatives such as edited books, lecturers and so forth, pushing the brand of IFIP.
In all, I wish to ask you to rise that problem in order to find good solutions within our community.
Best regards
Roberto
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Dear Otto, February first I became for the first time aware of that ONDM will take place at the department where I work May 22-26 this year. The CfP (10 lines) and the homepage was ready early February. See: <www.ondm2006.dk> So the total planning period is less than four months. Harry Perros knew nothing about it - and I have nothing to do with it. I just wanted to tell the organizers about forms for IFIP etc. I understood from Lars Dittmann (don't cite me for anything) that the ONDM people had discussed to make ONDM independent of IFIP, but anyway so far the IFIP TC6 logo is on the homepage. The deadline was extended from March 27 to end next week as almost no papers were received. So you can still submit papers! I don't know how the papers will be published. And I don't ask too many questions. Best regards, Villy
Villy Bæk IVERSEN | Tel: (+45) 4525 3648 Department COM, Building 345v | Fax: (+45) 4593 6581 Technical University of Denmark | Mob: (+45) 2274 7345 DK-2800 Lyngby, Denmark | Email: vbi@com.dtu.dk
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Otto Spaniol wrote:
Dear all,
here is a message from Roberto Sabella (RM/ERI) roberto.sabella@ericsson.com who feels concerned about the future of ONDM conference series.
Many things are not fully clear to me here: for example, I didn't know that apparently a selection procedure for a new chairman of WG 6.10 has been initiatied (without a mandate from TC6 !) and that somebody is known (not to me!) who would directly become the new chairman of WG 6.10. Formally at least, this person will have to be approved by the TC6 delegates.
ONDM was held the last time in 2005 by Achille Pattavina: Working Conference; 9th Optical Network Design and Modelling Conference (ONDM'2005 or - new proposed name - Optical Networks 2005); WG 6.10; 9-11 February 2005; Milano; Prof. Dr. Achille Pattavina Phone:+39-02-2399.3580 Fax: +39-02-2399.3413 Email contact: pattavina@elet.polimi.it URL: http://www.elet.polimi.it/conferences/ondm2005/
This was number 9 already in this series. Since then it has disappeaed form the scenery. I believe that something was planned in Copenhagen (Lars Dittmann?) but I'm not fully sure.
There are no information from WG 6.10 about upcoming events, most other WG's have given their input for the adaptation of the TC6 calendar.
The problem with ONDM will have to be treated in Coimbra.
Best regards Otto
Dear Otto,
the reason why I am writing you is that I am worried and concerned about the way ONDM is doing in the last years. Unfortunately, my engagement prevented me to be more active in the activities of WG 10 on optical networks and in the organization of the conference itself. However, I care that conference that I contribute to launch in the first years, organizing the second edition in Roma (1998) and organizing workshops inside that conference on hot topics inviting highly reputed experts worldwide.
An easy evalution of the ONDM evolution during the years can be done using measurable parameters, such as the number of participants to the conference, the number of published papers, and possibly the number of books that have been purschased. If the ONDM conference was successful those numbers had to increase significantly. In addition, there is another parameter that is not easily measured that is the quality of papers.
I tried to rise this question with the chairman of WG 10, in occasion of the election of the co-chairman that, according to what he said, would directly become the new chairman of WG 10.
I think in fact that if the ONDM was re-launched, IFIP could benefit having a good brand to manage. I also think that the co-support of IEEE could be useful to further enlarge the community of perspective authors. In my opinion, if the scientific community of ONDM become large, IFIP can leverage on it, and organize other relevant initiatives such as edited books, lecturers and so forth, pushing the brand of IFIP.
In all, I wish to ask you to rise that problem in order to find good solutions within our community.
Best regards
Roberto
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