I was worried that publishers who might want to sell single papers electronically would be unhappy if authors could also put the papers on their individual web sites. If we've established the precedent regarding the web sites, let's keep it.
Regards
Peter
-----Original Message----- From: leduc@montefiore.ulg.ac.be [mailto:leduc@montefiore.ulg.ac.be] Sent: 11 July 2002 09:20 To: Arun Iyengar Cc: TC6 Subject: RE: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
I agree with Arun.
Guy
A (At) 13:54 10/07/02, Arun Iyengar ecrivait (wrote):
Peter:
There are advantages to having a copy of proceedings even if some papers are posted on individual authors' Web sites. If I want to see all of the papers for a good conference, it is not going to do me much good to try to find the subset of authors who have posted their papers on their personal Web sites and try to locate their Web sites to obtain the papers. This would be very time consuming, and I am only likely to obtain a subset of the papers. I would much rather obtain the proceedings for the conference.
What is important is to attract the highest quality submissions. Authors want to put their papers on their Web sites. The key thing to getting the best proceedings and making IFIP as successful as possible is to get authors to want to publish their papers in IFIP proceedings. If we go with a publisher who doesn't allow authors to publish papers on their Web sites, this would be a deterrent for authors to publish their best work in IFIP conferences. This may have more of a negative impact on revenues than lost book sales due to some papers being available on the Web. The world is moving to a model where the Web is one of the primary means of information dissemination. Any publisher who doesn't allow this is behind the times.
I also don't think that it should be that difficult to negotiate this point. Other major publishers (e.g. ACM Press, IEEE Press, Kluwer) allow authors to put copies of their papers on their Web sites. It was a major improvement when Kluwer started allowing this, and now that we have it in our contracts with Kluwer, it isn't something we should give up in the future. That would be taking a step backward.
Arun
"Radford, Peter" RadfordP@logica.com@Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE on 07/10/2002 03:56:14 AM
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Augusto, et al
I've comments on just two points:
- This ought to make clear (if that is the intention) that TC6 expects the
publisher to provide the CDs and at some reasonable price. (I'll explore later today what people here would charge.)
- If a paper is available on the author's web site (or authors' web
sites), why should anyone pay for it from the publisher (see point 2)? How about demanding that authors be allowed to put the free information (see point 3) on their public web-sites but also be allowed to distribute electronic copies, if they wish? That way we don't totally undermine the financial benefit to the electronic publishers (which ultimately means money for TC6) but we do allow the authors to show what they've done to the world and (if they are willing to go to the trouble of sending out electronic copies) to let individuals see the full works.
Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Augusto Casaca [mailto:augusto.casaca@inesc.pt] Sent: 09 July 2002 14:35 To: TC6 Subject: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
Dear all,
Sometime ago I circulated a document from TC5 with a proposal for the IFIP publication policy. I received comments from Arun Iyengar, Guy Leduc, Harry Rudin and Lyman Chapin. I tried to put together some of these comments and my own ideas in a short document that I attach to this mail. Please let me know whether I can distribute this document within IFIP as a TC6 view or if I should change it.
Please let me have your comments until this coming Friday. I wish to send it to IFIP on that evening.
Best regards
Augusto
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