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Re: List accepting all posts
by Donald MacDougall 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

No, instead, remove the "##" on the second line where there is no "= yes". Don MacDougall On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 09:33:53AM -0600, Harlan Olson wrote: > Charlie, I am really confused now. Check me out below. > > Setting by default, not allowing non-subscribers: > #foreign_submit = yes > ##foreign_submit > > My understanding to enable a function it would be removing the "#": > foreign_submit = yes > ##foreign_submit > > Harlan > > -----Original Message----- > From: smartlist-admin(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > [mailto:smartlist-admin@Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE]On Behalf Of Charlie > Summers > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:25 AM > To: Greg Matheson; smartlist(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > Cc: segura(a)attcanada.ca > Subject: Re: List accepting all posts > > > At 8:46 AM -0400 7/28/01, Greg Matheson is rumored to have typed: > > > I agree it is confusing. > > No, it isn't; you simply don't understand the convention. > > #foreign_submit = yes > ##foreign_submit > > This means that: > > #foreign_submit = yes > > ...is the pre-set default, and: > > ##foreign_submit > > ...will _change_ the default value and do something differently than the > "stock" SmartList setup does. Note that ALL THE WAY THROUGH the rc.custom > file, this convention is followed for all of the flags...this isn't > something > arbitrarily done in one instance, but rather runs through the entire > rc.custom file to show you the default settings on the flags. > > Again, this tells you what the default value of the variable is, without > wasting the processing time to re-set it to the same value it already has. > Yes, it's copied from rc.init, but there it's _necessary_ to set the > variables (that's why it's called rc.INIT); in rc.custom, if you ain't > changing it, why re-set it to the value it already contains? I realize with > today's processor-wasteful programming styles popularized by the authors of > operating systems that require multiple wasted intepreted layers to do > anything, it seems foreign, but procmail/SmartList is written to be as fast, > small, and processor-friendly as humanly possible, even to the point of not > resetting a variable when it isn't necessary. If you have a gighertz machine > with gigs of RAM you probably don't care about wasted cycles...fortunately, > the maintainers of procmail/SmartList are still more interested in > efficiency > over sloppiness. If Windows programmers wrote the same way, Windows would > run > on a 50mHz 386 at almost the speed the current version does on modern > machines...imagine how fast it could run on THOSE! > > This should really be a FAQ, since it's all _terribly_ helpful; it allows > you to easily read how the defaults are set up - no one coming to SmartList > seems to grasp how this works, and how really helpful this is. If this > doesn't qualify as a FAQ, I don't know what does. > > Charlie > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Smartlist mailing list > Smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/smartlist ----- End forwarded message -----

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2 problems
by Dr.Orange 30 Jul '01

30 Jul '01

Smartlist v3.13.1 Recently i've started to have 2 problems with smartlist: 1. Smartlist doesn't deliver mail to address outside its own domain, ie it delivers to local address but not remote ones. 2. Smartlist forwards all subscription requests to the maintainer, even if a particular list has the following line commented out in rc.custom: #auto_subscribe = yes any help with either problem (they might even be related) would be dandy. thanks, -S-

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Re: Installation problem running install.sh
by Carsten Karkola 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Hello, >However, it looks like an internal problem of /bin/sh. Try >running > > /bin/sh -x ./install.sh /home/slist > >This lists every command before it is executed (with variables >expanded). Maybe it gives some more insight. thanks for your help, now I ended up with ... + 4<& 0 + ../src/setid root + 0< install.sh2 /bin/sh[11]: 4: 0403-007 Generated or received a file descriptor number that is not valid. + exit 1 ... But why not use another shell ?! I tried the same with ksh - no succes, after that I used bash and there were no problems! I'm on an AIX 4.3.2, on Solaris 2.7 x86 it worked also with /bin/sh, maybe it's a problem with the AIX sh ?! So I will force the use of bash ... In bash the output starts with: ... + exec + ../src/setid root ... instead of the +4<& 0. Regards, Carsten ================================================== == == Dipl.-Ing. Carsten Karkola == == TU Dresden - Fak.Bauingenieurwesen - FRZ == == Tel.: +49 351 463 3659 == Fax: +49 351 463 7766 == e-mail: carsten.karkola(a)mailbox.tu-dresden.de == ==================================================

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SmartList and Mhonarc
by Carsten Karkola 24 Jul '01

24 Jul '01

Hello, I tried to use SmartList with Mhonarc, I've found an receipe and wrote the followong lines in the SmartList users .procmailrc file: :0: mmadmin.lock * ^TOmmadmin(a)brzrs2.bau.tu-dresden.de | /usr/local/bin/mhonarc -add -umask 022 \ -outdir /daten/ftp/www/support/mailarchive/mmadmin \ /home/slist/mmadmin/archive/latest slist is the smartlist user mmadmin is the mailinglist But there was no effect. Running the above Mhonarc ( /usr/local/... latest ) command in the shell works fine. Or should I better put these lines in one of the rc.local.sXX files. Or what is the right :0 line ? Thanks for any help. Carsten ================================================== == == Dipl.-Ing. Carsten Karkola == == TU Dresden - Fak.Bauingenieurwesen - FRZ == == Tel.: +49 351 463 3659 == Fax: +49 351 463 7766 == e-mail: carsten.karkola(a)mailbox.tu-dresden.de == ==================================================

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how do I reject attached docs
by David Kelly 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi,... just checked the faq again and cant see the links http://www.mindwell.com/smartlist/contrib/reject_html.txt nor http://www.mindwell.com/smartlist/contrib/reject_garbage.txt However I had the text of one of these pages I saved before, but I am not sure what I *do* with this... the first part goes in rc.local.s00..... as is?.....do I need to adjust anything? and the second part (rejectmsg script)...is this a Perl script?.... how should I set it up? -DK From: rob(a)alegria.com (Rob Lingelbach) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:20:20 -0700 Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood, CA X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(2) 2/29/96) To: Dave Hillman <hillman(a)enteract.com>, SmartList(a)informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: Re: Disallow 'Content-type: text/html' On Apr 28, 12:23, Dave Hillman wrote: } Subject: Disallow 'Content-type: text/html' > > *Without* restarting the debate regarding the advisability or otherwise > of restricting list submissions to plain text, can someone mail me the > appropriate magic to either send submissions containing 'Content-type: > text/html' to /dev/null or to return them to sender with an appropriate > message. I'll append here my rc.local.s00, followed by my 'rejectmsg' script, followed by the 'quotereject' script. These are all derivative of help given me by others on this group in the past, for which I am thankful. My filtration is fairly restrictive, but that's the way I like it. #$Id: rc.local.s00,v 1.2 1994/09/20 19:33:28 berg Exp $ # # This file contains several examples of how you can customise SmartList # through the RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_00 hook. # # to kill messages that ask for a "Return Receipt". Lotus Notes # will reply dutifully but in a misconfigured way, to the addresses # in the "To:" header :0 Hhw * ^Disposition-Notification-To: { :0 c | formail -i "Subject: ***asking for Return Receipt"|$SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | rejectmsg -receipt } # from a suggestion by Tim Pierce <twpierce(a)rootsweb.com> # below was "* ^begin [0-7][0-7][0-7] .*" :0 hBHw * ^begin [0-7][0-7][0-7] [a-zA-Z0-9_.-]+ { :0 c | formail -i "Subject: ***uuencode or winmail.dat***warning"|$SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | rejectmsg -attach } :0 hBHw * ^Content-Type:[ ]+.*(multipart/|/enriched|coded) { :0 c | formail -i "Subect: ***content REJECT engaged by rob********"| $SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | rejectmsg -attach } :0 hBHw * ^Content-Type: application.* { :0 c | formail -i "Subect: ***content REJECT engaged by rob*********"| $SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | rejectmsg -attach } :0 hBHw * ^Content-Disposition: attachment.* { :0 c | formail -i "Subect: ***content REJECT engaged by rob*********"| $SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | rejectmsg -attach } :0 hBHw * ^Content-Disposition: inline; filename=.* { :0 c | formail -i "Subect: ***content REJECT engaged by rob********"| $SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | rejectmsg -attach } # mine (rob(a)alegria.com) :0 hBHw * 20^1 ^> * -10^1 ^[^>] { :0c | formail -i "Subject: ***quote REJECT engaged"| $SENDMAIL -oi $maintainer :0 | quotereject -attach } ----cut here----end of rc.local.s00 ----cut here----start rejectmsg script #! /bin/ksh : test=test # /bin/test echo=echo # /bin/echo cat=cat # /bin/cat sed=sed # /bin/sed grep=grep # /bin/grep date=date # /bin/date formail=formail # /usr/local/bin/formail multigram=multigram # ../.bin/multigram $test -z "$listaddr" && $echo "Don't start this script directly, it is used in rc.local.s00" && exit 64 tmprequest=tmp.request tmpfrom=tmp.from function=$1 $cat > $tmprequest sender=`$formail -rtzxTo: < $tmprequest` case $function in -attach) ($formail -i"From: $listreq" -rtA"X-Loop: $listaddr" < $tmprequest ;\ $echo "Your post to the mailinglist appears to contain an attachment or" $echo "enriched text..." $echo "Such posts are not accepted on this mailinglist." $echo "please resubmit your post as a plain text document, and" $echo "contact rob(a)alegria.com if you have any questions.." $echo " " $echo "[message follows]" $echo " "; cat $tmprequest)\ | $SENDMAIL $sendmailOPT $sender shift ;; esac case $function in -receipt) ($formail -i"From: $listreq" -rtA"X-Loop: $listaddr" < $tmprequest ;\ $echo "Your post to the mailinglist appears to contain a request" $echo "for a Return Receipt." $echo "Such posts are not allowed on the TIG due to Lotus Notes'" $echo "tendency to send receipts to all addresses found in the 'To:'" $echo "header, which comes dangerously close to a loop condition." $echo " " $echo "[message follows]" $echo " "; cat $tmprequest)\ | $SENDMAIL $sendmailOPT $sender shift ;; esac -----cut here---end rejectmsg script -----cut here---start quotereject script #! /bin/ksh : test=test # /bin/test echo=echo # /bin/echo cat=cat # /bin/cat sed=sed # /bin/sed grep=grep # /bin/grep date=date # /bin/date formail=formail # /usr/local/bin/formail multigram=multigram # ../.bin/multigram $test -z "$listaddr" && $echo "Don't start this script directly, it is used in rc.local.s00" && exit 64 tmprequest=tmp.request tmpfrom=tmp.from function=$1 $cat > $tmprequest sender=`$formail -rtzxTo: < $tmprequest` case $function in -attach) ($formail -i"From: $listreq" -rtA"X-Loop: $listaddr" < $tmprequest ;\ $echo "Your mail to the mailinglist has been intercepted and" $echo "is being returned to you because it it appears to the list server" $echo "to contain an excessive amount of quoted material." $echo "Brief quoting is fine, but please quote only for context." $echo "Do not quote other messages in their entirety, or quote" $echo "message headers or signature files. " $echo " " $echo "...excessive quoting is a waste of resources." $echo "If you feel that you've edited your message adequately but" $echo "it was still returned to you, you can appeal to the administator," $echo "rob(a)alegria.com" $echo " " $echo "[message follows]" $echo " "; cat $tmprequest)\ | $SENDMAIL $sendmailOPT $sender shift ;; esac -----cut here-----end quotereject script -- Rob Lingelbach | 2660 Hollyridge Dr., Los Angeles, CA 90068 rob(a)alegria.com |"I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or rob(a)info.com | cat is not the better for it." --Abraham Lincoln rob(a)tele.com KB6CUN http://www.alegria.com

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how do I reject attached docs
by David Kelly 23 Jul '01

23 Jul '01

Hi,... just checked the faq again and cant see the links http://www.mindwell.com/smartlist/contrib/reject_html.txt nor

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Odd hypocrisy? Should I switch away from SmartList?
by Patrick Salsbury 22 Jul '01

22 Jul '01

This may be an old topic, since I remember another list member telling me something in private about this a while back. It might even be a FAQ, but I didn't see it the 2 I checked online. Does anyone find it odd/hypocritical that the SmartList list is being run and processed by Mailman? Look in the headers of this or any other message. You'll see these lines, among others: List-subscribe: <http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/smartlist> X-mailman-version: 2.0.5 Seems a bit strange... I've been hearing good things about Mailman for a while, and had it recommended by some friends. This, however, seems to be the highest praise going. So what's the deal? Should I consider migrating all my lists over to Mailman and stop using SmartList? Is there some reason (besides inertia) to keep using it? Curious, -- Pat ___________________Think For Yourself____________________ Patrick G. Salsbury - http://reality.sculptors.com/~salsbury/ Learn about stereolithography: http://reality.sculptors.com/stereolithography.html --------------------------------------------------------- We ARE as gods and might as well get good at it. -- Stewart Brand, Whole Earth Catalog

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Emergency
by David Kelly 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

Hi to all ... we have a massive problem with the W32.Sircam.Worm@mm. I want to temporarily close the lists we have...what's the best way??? DK

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procbounce removes sender instead of bouncer
by Miquel E. Cabanas 20 Jul '01

20 Jul '01

hi all, I am using SmartList v3.14 to run a small list. Today I was forced to disable the auto-remove features because procbounce insisted in identifying one of the list members as responsible of all bounces related to messages he had submitted to the list instead of the real bouncers. He also claims to get back lots of autoreplies (i.e. vacation messages and the like) and error messages, though it is my understanding that such messages should go back to the list-request, and forwarded exclusively to the list master... I've compared the header of some messages submitted by him to the list with those by other users, and, as expected, they are alike. For the case it might help, this person uses PINE as MUA, other people from his lab using other MUAs do not get unsubscribed, neither complain about getting autoreplies or error messages. Any hint will be appreciated. Miquel -- Miquel E Cabanas ------------------------------------------------------ SeRMN, Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona (Miquel.Cabanas(a)uab.es) ------------------------------------------o-oo--ooo---ooo--oo-o--------

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smartlist on a non root account?
by Llorenc Sole 18 Jul '01

18 Jul '01

Hi, I've been using smarlist through my ISP and I'm happy with it, but now my ISP has discontinued it and forces me to another system, which is not free of charge and intended for high volume, which is not my case. I wonder if I could install and manage smartlist on my shared account, without my ISP cooperation (which I would not get), but I'm still very new to the unix world. My host is running FreeBSD FreeBSD 4.1.1, qmail is the MTA here (sendmail is also around, I think) and my shell is /bin/csh. First I tried to compile my own smartlist, but the make hangs on a test without any feedback and I have to kill the process. As I could not find what was wrong, I copied the old smartlist files which are still on the server to a subdir on my account. Then I ran createlist and modified .procmailrc accordingly to have mail piped to flist. I do not know what else should I do, but this does not work (maybe hardcoded paths? maybe root permissions?...) I tried to pipe a mailbox file via command line to flist just to see what happens and the output is: % cat /usr/home/myacc/mbox | ./flist test-request flist: Can't find ".etc" in "" I'm lost, I would thank any help to have smarlist running on my account. TIA, Llorenc

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