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help for new administrator
by Pip Chodorov 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

Thanks to all who answered my call for help. For the moment I am dealing with "nomail" by removing the addresses from the "dist" file while keeping them in the "accept" file. I don't think this particular list will generate enough traffic to need automation. It is a list for distributors of experimental and avant-garde film and video, and there are only about two dozen to speak of. -Pip Chodorov

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Re:help for new administrator
by Joyce Miletic 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

Charlie said: "Smartlist does not have capabilities out-of-the-box to permit "disable mail" (receive suspension), "receive digests" (smartlist deals with digests as seperate lists), or "receive copies of their own posts" (there is no way for a subscriber NOT to receive copies of their own posts)." In the .bin directory within the 'subscribe' script (lines #'s are according to my distro): 90: NOT_METOO="" 91: 92: #$formail -k -xSubject: <$tmprequest | 93: # $grep 'no.*[^a-z]cop.*[^a-z]please' >/dev/null && NOT_METOO=" (-n)" 94: 95: $multigram -a "$subscraddr$NOT_METOO" dist >/dev/null 96: 119: # if $test -z "$NOT_METOO" 120: # then 121: $echo "By default, copies of your own submissions will be returned." 122: # else 123: # $echo "As requested, copies of your own submissions will not be returned." 124: # fi Not sure what this means, but it could mean that this can be uncommented to have no copy returned to sender, when sender has subscribed with 'no copy please' included in the subject field, however why one would want to do this, i am not entirely sure?? (Aside: I apologize, because i had to mess with the subject by removing a 'Re:' in order to make my mail client send this!!) --Joyce

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help for new administrator
by Pip Chodorov 26 Feb '04

26 Feb '04

Hello, I just created a list using smartlist and I would like some information, please, if anyone can help. What do I tell new subscribers they should do if they want to change their subscription options (disable mail, receive digests, receive copies of their own posts...). Or how can I change those options for them? I see a valuable ressource for this "smartlist" group: membership configuration is available on a website. But my group does not have a website. Sorry if this question seems very basic but I could not find this information in the manual or the FAQ, unless I wasn't looking in the right place. Any help would be appreciated, Pip Chodorov pip-distlist(a)re-voir.com

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Re:choplist: one recipient per message
by Andrew Billinghurst 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

>From memory you need to edit maxsize maxsize = 0 I would suggest that you probably want to set a maxconcur rather than let that go untethered. Regards, Andrew On 24 Feb 2004 at 12:01, smartlist-request(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:06:48 -0600 > From: blah fnord <banghash(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: choplist: one recipient per message > To: smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > Message-ID: <Sea1-F140J65JyFCDd500074443(a)hotmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hi, I've been trying to figure out how to get smartlist (choplist) to pass > just one recipient per message to sendmail. I've tried the obvious in > rc.init with the following settings: > > minnames = 1 # minimum number of names per call > mindiffnames = 1 # minimum for maxnames-minnames > maxnames = 2 # maximum number of names per call > maxsplits = 0 # maximum number of parts to split dist in > maxsize = 200000 # maximal disk space to be taken up per > mail maxconcur = 0 # maximum number of concurrent > sendmail calls > > but it just doesn't seem to work. I know choplist is using the configured > values to call sendmail because I can see something like "choplist 1 1 2 0 > sendmail -t -odb -odq....." in the logs. There are still 3,000-5,000 (for > instance @aol.com) recipeints per message getting lumped together. The > reason this is a problem is because as an anti-spam precaution, mail > servers are rejecting connections from other servers that appear to be > spamming and then my newsletter doesn't get delivered to many people. Does > have a solutions for getting no more than 2 recipients per message? > > Thanks very much!!! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. > http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ > > > -- Andrew Billinghurst billinghurst(a)tpg.com.au Genealogy mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ New Databases (check often): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ Data Submission Form: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html

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choplist: one recipient per message
by blah fnord 24 Feb '04

24 Feb '04

Hi, I've been trying to figure out how to get smartlist (choplist) to pass just one recipient per message to sendmail. I've tried the obvious in rc.init with the following settings: minnames = 1 # minimum number of names per call mindiffnames = 1 # minimum for maxnames-minnames maxnames = 2 # maximum number of names per call maxsplits = 0 # maximum number of parts to split dist in maxsize = 200000 # maximal disk space to be taken up per mail maxconcur = 0 # maximum number of concurrent sendmail calls but it just doesn't seem to work. I know choplist is using the configured values to call sendmail because I can see something like "choplist 1 1 2 0 sendmail -t -odb -odq....." in the logs. There are still 3,000-5,000 (for instance @aol.com) recipeints per message getting lumped together. The reason this is a problem is because as an anti-spam precaution, mail servers are rejecting connections from other servers that appear to be spamming and then my newsletter doesn't get delivered to many people. Does have a solutions for getting no more than 2 recipients per message? Thanks very much!!! _________________________________________________________________ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/

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help with getting permissions set correctly for .bin and .etc on a Debian box
by Scott Berry 23 Feb '04

23 Feb '04

Hi there list, Name here is Scott. I just installed Smartlist a few days ago. I am having trouble accessing the .bin and also the .etc directories for Smartlist. I am wondering if any one can tell me what to chown them to and chgrp and chmod them too. Thanks for the help.

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Re: "Approved: <pwd>" anywhere in the body is letting the post through
by Peter Hartzler 06 Feb '04

06 Feb '04

Nishi -- Perhaps it's possible that your list has been tweaked to allow commands in the email body, something like what's discussed at http://www.hartzler.net/smartlist/SmartList-FAQ.html#Section_3.2 But different in that I believe .examples/rc.local.r00 wants list commands at the very top...? In any case, I guess it's time to change the moderator password. :-) -ph On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 10:21:54PM -0600, Nishikant Kapoor wrote: > I have a moderated list that seems to be working just fine. However, I > just noticed that some postings that had "approved: <list_pwd>" in the > body made it directly to the list, requiring no moderator approval. > > The strange part is that "approved: <list_pwd>" was the starting line in > the very first posting (how that happened, no idea!) but all the > subsequent 'replies' simply quoted it and got through. > > I was looking through the list archives but couldn't find any post > talking about this problem. > > Thanks, > Nishi > > > _______________________________________________ > Smartlist mailing list > Smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/smartlist

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"Approved: <pwd>" anywhere in the body is letting the post through
by Nishikant Kapoor 01 Feb '04

01 Feb '04

I have a moderated list that seems to be working just fine. However, I just noticed that some postings that had "approved: <list_pwd>" in the body made it directly to the list, requiring no moderator approval. The strange part is that "approved: <list_pwd>" was the starting line in the very first posting (how that happened, no idea!) but all the subsequent 'replies' simply quoted it and got through. I was looking through the list archives but couldn't find any post talking about this problem. Thanks, Nishi

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Problems with flush_digests
by Andrew Billinghurst 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

Anyone able to help with some problem-solving for flush_digests, or able to explain the options that can be used in flush_digest. I cannot find any documentation that explains it. :( I am getting the errors Subject: Cron <slist@lists2> /u1/slist/.bin/flush_digests /usr/sbin/sendmail: invalid option -- - another day I get /usr/sbin/sendmail: invalid option -- 7 I am used to the occasional breakage of digests and seeing the names of the affected lists in the error line, however, this sort of error has me flummoxed. Anyone got thoughts? Regards, Andrew

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Re: [smartlist] How to add "Your are subscribed as ..." in the email body
by Donald MacDougall 23 Jan '04

23 Jan '04

On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 04:03:02PM -0800, Cedant Web Hosting wrote: > Is it possible to make the footer of the email list the person > that the email was sent to. For example at the bottom of the email body, > it would be able to say "You are subscribed as $user(a)$somedomain.com where > it would put the users actual email address that received that letter. > > > > Thanks, > Thomas > For that to be possible, the list server would have to send a separate message to each subscriber individually. Smartlist doesn't do that. If you have a number of subscribers at one address, say yahoo.com or, as in my case usc.edu, it aggregates them and sends one message to that particular mail host with a whole bunch of names attached. Much more efficient for all concerned, but it makes it impossible to put individual messages to different subscribers. There are some list servers that do what you want. The one I happen to know does this is a commercial server made by Lyris. I suspect there are many more nowadays, since most of the spam I get seems to put all sorts of individualized content such as putting random garbage at the end of the Subject line, but I don't know much about them. Don MacDougall

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