August 2000 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

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by Dave Bacon 07 Aug '00

07 Aug '00

I have been using the O'Reilly book "Managing Mailing Lists" to help me set up a SmartList mailing list. Within the book, the section on archives shows a perl script to save messages in an archive organized in "/archive/YYMM/DD" format. I typed the script in and have found it to work just fine with the exception of what looks like a Y2K bug. Instead of creating a YYMM directory having a name of "0008" it creates one with the name of "10008". I think this means it calculates the year as being 100, which is one more than 99 (1999). I have included the script in this email. Any ideas in correcting this problem? Thank you (arch_trunc script replacement from O'Reilly & Associates Managing Mailing Lists) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/usr/bin/perl # # arch_trunc, a replacement for the distributed ./bin/arch_trunc # shell script in SmartList. To use it, put it in some list's directory. # # By Alan Schwartz # # This script is run whenever a submission is received and archived # in archive/latest. It's responsible for cleaning up that directory. # This version figures out the date of each file in archive/latest # that should be removed and appends it to the file archive/YYMM/DD # unless (chdir("archive/latest")) { print "Don't start this script directly, it is called by rc.request\n"; exit 64 } # Only do the removing now and then to keep load down #if ($ENV{'ARCHIVE'} =~ /[248]$/) { opendir(DIR,"."); @files = grep(/^\d+/,readdir(DIR)); closedir (DIR); foreach (sort bytime @files) { $recent++; if ($recent > $ENV{'archive_hist'}) { # Archive these and delete them @time = localtime((stat($_))[9]); $newdir = sprintf("%02d%02d",$time[5],$time[4]+1); $newfile = sprintf("%02d",$time[3]); unless (-d "../$newdir") { mkdir("../$newdir",2770); } open(IN,$_); open(OUT,">>../$newdir/$newfile"); print OUT <IN>; close(IN); close(OUT); unlink($_); } } unlink("_dummy_"); #} sub bytime { return -M $a <=> -M $b; } ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _________________________________________ Dave G. Bacon Computer Network Manager Outagamie Waupaca Library System 225 N. Oneida St., Appleton, WI 54911 920/832-6193(voice), 920/832-6422(FAX) dbacon(a)mail.owls.lib.wi.us _________________________________________

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Re: does anyone find it ironic that smartlist mailing list is using Mailman?
by David R. Linn 06 Aug '00

06 Aug '00

>> Quoting "David R. Linn" <drl(a)vuse.vanderbilt.edu>: >> >> > Yes, paritcularly when all that was needed was a trivial change to >> > the list config. >> >> Since YEARS list members complained about this, sending emails to >> Stephen and the list without any reaction of a responsible person. Unfortunately, SRB has been otherwise occupied for a while and a plan to turn the procmail and SmartList machines over to a team never got off the ground. (I was a member of that team) For that matter, neither did a plan to move the lists to procmail.org and smartlist.org. >> Now suddenly someone made a decision without asking the list members. >> >> This list owns the list members not someone at an university who wants >> to be a big list master! My perception is that the change was a result of the sudden decommisioning of the machine on which the list was running. (I have faced such a need in the past; when a machine is compromised, it needs to be off the net **NOW**.) So, the choice is not so much between SmartList and Mailman as it is between Mailman and *nothingness*, i.e. the list would have been abruptly discontinued. >> Such an behaviour is disappointing and doesn't encourage anybody >> continuing to support SmartList/Procmail. Personally, I thanked the RWTH staff for making the extra effort to keep the list alive when they could have let it die silently. >> If the SmartList-Package-Maintainer agree to point to another list >> server for SmartList we could simply set up one very quickly (with >> searchable (web) archive ....) running with SL. I personally believe we need to revive the plan to move the lists to procmail.org and smartlist.org. >> I don't like to remember a password to unsubscribe and I don't like such >> a "list dictatorship"! At least we still have a list on which to discuss this. >> Werner David -- David R. Linn, SEDCON System Manager |INET: drl(a)vuse.vanderbilt.edu Vanderbilt University School of Engineering|Phone: [+1] 615-343-6164 Box 1826, Station B |Disclaimer: I have no authority Nashville, TN, USA 37235 |to speak for anyone but myself. The 2nd millenium and 20th century do not end before December 31, 2000. http://www.vuse.vanderbilt.edu/~drl

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dare I say, X-Command?
by Lee Howard 03 Aug '00

03 Aug '00

Another X-Command question. Well there have been some pretty harsh words recently about the idocy of anyone not getting the how-to of the X-Command feature, so admittedly, I'm reluctant to ask anything here, but I've been trying this off-and-on now for a number of months with no success. I've read and re-read the famous *Chapter 2*, reviewed the mailing list archives, prayed to God for enlightenment, and been up and down through the comments in most of the rc files and examples. Still... no luck. I'll admit: I am missing something obvious, easy, and I'm stupid for not seeing it. And now that I've said it myself, I don't need anyone else to state the obvious, but I would appreciate a helping hand in getting this to work. Okay, so I send a non-HTML e-mail from the administrator's account with no subject line to the list-request address. The first line of the body is: X-Command: faxguy(a)deanox.com password showdist And I send it. And the dist list surely doesn't show up in response. Regardless of the command, I get the same response: nothing. I've turned on VERBOSE and LOGEXTRACT, and it looks like the x-command is being processed, but something is killing it... my log follows. Thanks. Lee Howard procmail: [6262] Thu Aug 3 01:25:42 2000 procmail: Assigning "RC_CUSTOM" procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=" procmail: Assigning "LOCKFILE=tmp.lock" procmail: Locking "tmp.lock" procmail: Match on "^^X-Command:" procmail: Executing "formail,-X," procmail: Match on "< 4096" procmail: Match on "" procmail: No match on ! "^(X-(Loop: ()testing@deanox\.com|Diagnostic:)|X-Command:)" procmail: Assigning "LOGABSTRACT=yes" procmail: No match on ! "^(Subject:(.*[^a-z])?Re:|X-(Loop: ()testing@deanox\.com|Diagnostic:)|X-Command:)" procmail: Match on "^X-Command:.*()[ ]*()password" procmail: Match on ! "^X-Loop: ()testing(a)deanox\.com" procmail: Locking "dist.lock" procmail: Executing "x_command" procmail: Unlocking "dist.lock" procmail: Assigning "LOCKFILE" procmail: Unlocking "tmp.lock" procmail: No match on ! "< 524288" procmail: No match on "(^(Mailing-List:|Precedence:.*(junk|bulk|list)|To: Multiple recipients of |(((Resent-)?(From|Sender)|X-Envelope-From):|>?From )([^>]*[^(.%@a-z0-9])?(Post(ma?(st(e?r)?|n)|office)|(send)?Mail(er)?|daemon| m(mdf|ajordomo)|n?uucp|LIST(SERV|proc)|NETSERV|o(wner|ps)|r(e(quest|sponse)| oot)|b(ounce|bs\.smtp)|echo|mirror|s(erv(ices?|er)|mtp(error)?|ystem)|A(dmin (istrator)?|MMGR|utoanswer))(([^).!:a-z0-9][-_a-z0-9]*)?[%@> ][^<)]*($.*$.*)?)?$([^>]|$)))" procmail: No match on "^X-Loop: ()testing(a)deanox\.com" procmail: No match on ! "^X-(Diagnostic|Processed):" procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=" procmail: No match on ! "^X-(Diagnostic|Processed):" procmail: Executing "formail,-AX-Envelope-To: testing-request" procmail: Match on ! "." procmail: Locking "request.lock" procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=request" procmail: Opening "request" procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock procmail: Unlocking "request.lock" >From redder(a)deanox.com Thu Aug 3 01:25:42 2000 Subject: Folder: request 794

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