That is why I had the same questions if you read my old question again. I could not see (.) type files and did not know how but like you said I figured it out for myself. And "assistance" was just the subject line , would you rather I write my whole problem in the subject line? I just feel you were being a bit hard on the guy. If you did not want to help you could simply not reply to his question. We do not all know the installation files exist. Like the last guy smart list came with my hosting package with very little information just the basic FAQS. Which by the way are the same on every site that list them, I did spend alot of time searching for the answer before asking the question. When someone asked a question you deem to be silly just realize they probably just don't know since it comes with a hosting package. You must realize that people that do not know the problem cannot ask the proper question, which I failed to do myself which is why I did not get the right answer but it is frustrating enough without someone bugging you about asking for help. You are right though I shouldn't have said I didn't receive help, some were good enough to try and answer my question. I just get tired of people like you whining about helping people when it was to a list which you opted in to and can opt out of anytime. Anyways, have patience or ignore their request for help if you don't want to be bothered. Just because it may seem like common sense to you doesn't mean it is for everyone. It only seem simple when you already know it. Always, Ron Miller millerinc.com lolgreetings.com