At 2:21 AM -0400 8/22/02, Richard Kurth is rumored to have typed:

Can I install a second version of procmail to work with smartlist that will not interfere with the other version that is running on the server.

Yep.

I can not upgrade the version of procmail because it will break the Cobalt GUI.

No you won't break the GUI, but you WILL break the ability to deliver mail. Cobalt reworked the source to follow symlinks in /var/spool/mail/ to /home/spool/mail/, and as someone who upgraaded a procmail binary from distribution source and then needed to beg a binary from someone else's machine, I can advise you it is a _really_ bad idea to upgrade the /usr/bin/procmail file... ;)

And can this all be installed in a completely different place than a normal install.

Not sure what you mean by a, "normail install," since there really ain't no such thing. People install SmartList anywhere and everywhere...if anything, I'd recommend you install at one of the reasonable "standard" locations; the home directory for the slist user. Which brings us to... At 4:28 AM -0400 8/22/02, Richard Kurth is rumored to have typed:

I have the directory chow slist and the group set properly this is what it looks like in a ls -al drwxrwxr-x 2 slist home 1024 Aug 22 01:11 slist home is the group name for this user

This is a mistake. If you're installing on a Cobalt machine, you need to define the slist user _outside_ the GUI instead of inside it. You created this user in the admin interface for the main website...delete this user and the associated files though the GUI, then use SSH (you _did_ install SSH and turn telnet off, right?) and use adduser as root to create the slist user. You can then su to the slist user and install the software. You'll have some other small problems running SmartList on a Cobalt, but they will be minimal if you avoid using the GUI completely for this user. Make sure, for example, you place your list aliases into your aliases.master file instead of the aliases file, to make sure they aren't overwritten by the GUI. (See the man pages for adduser; you probably want to create the home directory at /home/slist, then install the procmail/SmartList sources there and compile. Yeah, it's so easy I'd avoid the silly .pkg files available for it as well.) Charlie