I also have experienced this problem. I don't know if it's a SmartList bug or somehow caused by the bounce mail message. Below are examples of bounced email from two different list members that caused the wrong address to be removed - any ideas on a solution would be appreciated. Currently my work-around was to move the most important list members above the line in "(....)" that indicates they can not be automatically removed. Both cases below the same person was removed, yet the email bounced from two different list members. --------------- sample #1 ----------------- Subject: You have been removed from the list From: atommib-request@research.telcordia.com Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:46:58 -0500 (EST) To: heard@pobox.com Your mail address heard@pobox.com has been removed from the atommib@research.telcordia.com mailinglist. It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails. Before sending in a subscription request to atommib-request@research.telcordia.com again, please ensure that this problem has been resolved. When in doubt, ask your system administrator or send mail to "postmaster". The last one of those bounced mails has been quoted below:
From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Dec 28 14:46:56 2002
Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON> Received: from mail01a.rapidsite.net (mail01a.rapidsite.net [207.158.192.230]) by thumper.research.telcordia.com (8.12.6/8.12.1) with SMTP id gBSJkq6o016618 for <atommib-request@research.telcordia.com>; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:46:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:46:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200212281946.gBSJkq6o016618@thumper.research.telcordia.com> From: Postmaster@multiport.com To: atommib-request@research.telcordia.com Subject: Mail Delivery Warning X-Loop-Detect: 4
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This is an advisory-only email. Please do not reply to it.
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"rnewcomb@multiport.com"
has been postponed due to a full mailbox.
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by mail01a.rapidsite.net (RS ver 1.0.63s) with SMTP id 08606 for <rnewcomb@multiport.com>; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:45:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slmgr@localhost) by thumper.research.telcordia.com (8.12.6/8.12.1) id gBSJgXFC016317; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:42:33 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:42:33 -0500 (EST) Old-Return-Path: <heard@pobox.com> X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.bayarea.net: heard owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: "C. M. Heard" <heard@pobox.com> X-Sender: heard@shell4.bayarea.net To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> cc: "Kam Lam (E-mail)" <hklam@lucent.com>, mstewart@doradosoftware.com, a_n_huynh@yahoo.com, "Thomas Narten (E-mail)" <narten@us.ibm.com>, "Erik Nordmark (E-mail)" <Erik.Nordmark@sun.com>, "Atommib (E-mail)" <atommib@research.telcordia.com> Subject: Re: FW: submitting draft-ietf-atommib-opticalmib-07.txt to IESG In-Reply-To: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15583D747@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10212280929150.27330-100000@shell4.bayarea.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Resent-Message-ID: <HyFlSD.A.1-D.p6fD-@thumper> Resent-From: atommib@research.telcordia.com X-Mailing-List: <atommib@research.telcordia.com> X-Loop: atommib@research.telcordia.com List-Post: <mailto:atommib@research.telcordia.com> List-Help: <mailto:atommib-request@research.telcordia.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <mailto:atommib-request@research.telcordia.com?subject=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:atommib-request@research.telcordia.com?subject=unsubscribe> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: atommib-request@research.telcordia.com X-Loop-Detect: 1
------------- sample #2 ---------------- Subject: You have been removed from the list From: atommib-request@research.telcordia.com Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:49:50 -0500 (EST) To: heard@pobox.com Your mail address heard@pobox.com has been removed from the atommib@research.telcordia.com mailinglist. It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails. Before sending in a subscription request to atommib-request@research.telcordia.com again, please ensure that this problem has been resolved. When in doubt, ask your system administrator or send mail to "postmaster". The last one of those bounced mails has been quoted below:
From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Dec 28 14:49:48 2002
Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON> Received: from titan02.ksc.nasa.gov (titan02.ksc.nasa.gov [163.205.195.2]) by thumper.research.telcordia.com (8.12.6/8.12.1) with ESMTP id gBSJni6o016813 for <atommib-request@research.telcordia.com>; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:49:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from titan.ksc.nasa.gov (titan01w [163.205.1.1]) by titan02.ksc.nasa.gov (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id gBSJnch21574 for <atommib-request@research.telcordia.com>; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:49:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:49:28 -0500 From: Postmaster@titan.ksc.nasa.gov Subject: Undeliverable Mail To: <atommib-request@research.telcordia.com> Message-ID: <return.021228144928.124@titan.ksc.nasa.gov> X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/)
Bad address -- <juhr@titan02.ksc.nasa.gov> Error -- Address refused by receiver (titan02.ksc.nasa.gov): -- <juhr@titan02.ksc.nasa.gov> (550 5.1.1 <juhr@titan02.ksc.nasa.gov>... User unknown)
Start of returned message
Received: from thumper.research.telcordia.com by titan.ksc.nasa.gov with ESMTP for juhr@titan.ksc.nasa.gov; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:49:23 -0500 Received: (from slmgr@localhost) by thumper.research.telcordia.com (8.12.6/8.12.1) id gBSJgYKa016318; Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:42:34 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 14:42:34 -0500 (EST) Old-Return-Path: <heard@pobox.com> X-Authentication-Warning: shell4.bayarea.net: heard owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:42:13 -0800 (PST) From: "C. M. Heard" <heard@pobox.com> X-Sender: heard@shell4.bayarea.net To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> cc: "Kam Lam (E-mail)" <hklam@lucent.com>, mstewart@doradosoftware.com, a_n_huynh@yahoo.com, "Thomas Narten (E-mail)" <narten@us.ibm.com>, "Erik Nordmark (E-mail)" <Erik.Nordmark@sun.com>, "Atommib (E-mail)" <atommib@research.telcordia.com> Subject: Re: FW: submitting draft-ietf-atommib-opticalmib-07.txt to IESG In-Reply-To: <7D5D48D2CAA3D84C813F5B154F43B15583D747@nl0006exch001u.nl.lucent.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10212280929150.27330-100000@shell4.bayarea.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS - amavis-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Resent-Message-ID: <HyFlSD.A.1-D.p6fD-@thumper> Resent-From: atommib@research.telcordia.com X-Mailing-List: <atommib@research.telcordia.com> X-Loop: atommib@research.telcordia.com List-Post: <mailto:atommib@research.telcordia.com> List-Help: <mailto:atommib-request@research.telcordia.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <mailto:atommib-request@research.telcordia.com?subject=subscribe> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:atommib-request@research.telcordia.com?subject=unsubscribe> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: atommib-request@research.telcordia.com