August 2005 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

How to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc ?
by Kapoor, Nishikant X 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

All, I am trying to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc from http://www.ha-schneider.de/software/smartlist/ to set up an archive for a mailing list. I have renamed rc.local.s10.mhonarc to rc.local.s30 and added following line to rc.custom RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_30 = rc.local.s30 rc.local.s10 and rc.local.s20 are already in use and since I do not know how to merge the recipe in rc.local.s10.mhonarc with either of the two, I renamed it to rc.local.s30 and added a new line in rc.custom. Could someone please help me understand as to how it all works. Thanks Nishi

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Archive egrep
by Alan Northam 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

The following is a sample of the results of a search that I receive by email. This there a way to hide the line number? ARCHIVE egrep august latest/* BEGIN---------------cut here------------------ latest/10:16:Monday, August 27, 2001 latest/11:16:Tuesday, August 21, 2001 latest/12:16:Wednesday, August 29, 2001 END-----------------cut here------------------ Thanks for your help! Alan,

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modify the subscribe/unsubscribe-mail
by Martin M=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=ller 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

hi! how can i modyfiy the text for the automatic subscribe/unsubscribe-mail? The possibilities of a *subscribe.txt*-file in my folder are not enough for me. I want suppress the information about the transmited data and translate the rest of the mail to german. TIA, martin -- "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft?" - Christine Comaford, PC Week

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Archives?
by Mitchell Darer 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

Hello: Does SmartList have an archiving and (hopefully user friendly) search capability? [I'm not interested in the archives of this Disc List, but of the list I run for my 'users']. Thanks, Mitch Darer -- Mitchell Darer, WebMaster, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222 (phone/fax)

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Re: does anyone find it ironic that smartlist mailing list is using Mailman?
by Charlie Summers 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

At 11:41 AM -0400 7/28/00, Werner Reisberger is rumored to have typed: > I never saw any > admin reply to the numerous complains about spam messages. Actually, that's not _strictly_ true, since I remember when Stephen was actually maintaining the list (and probably anally have archives of the list from that time somewhere on some floppy or MO cart from a long time ago and far far away). But you're right, it's been _years_ since he's been around. However, the list belongs to the maintainer (or at least the machine's admin), not the members. You'll get no argument from me that the list should be moved (I believe I said exactly that a couple of times), but to suggest the admins need to take a poll to ask what they may or may not do with the existing list is silly, to say the least. They are certainly able to move this list to mailman without the list subscriber's permission - indeed, they _have_ done so, which makes my point for me. Whether we should move this list to a SmartList server is a completely seperate issue...one which Philip should probably weigh in on, since he is now maintaining the procmail/SmartList source and as such the de facto head of our band of merry wanderers... Charlie

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Re:sub/unsub behavior
by Zhiliang Hu 23 Aug '05

23 Aug '05

Good to confirm... I checked "confirm" add-on at the Smartlist FAQ but it does not load to my browser. So I came up a simple 'rc.local.r10' to do the verifications, attached beblow. I tried some simple tests and it worked for me. May need more tests to improve. Zhiliang ps: when I copied to the mail window there are some added line breaks. I hope one can restore these breaks for tests.. #$Id: rc.local.r10,v 0.01 # # 2005/08/22 19:28:16 Zhiliang Hu ############################################################## tmpreqloc='admin/subcktmp' :0 w * ^Subject:.*\@ { FROMADDR =`formail -rtzxTo:` SUBJADDR =`formail -xSubject: |perl -pe 's/.*sub.*\s+([^\s]+\@[^\s]+)/$1/sg;s/^\s+//g;s/\s+$//g;'` SUBJCOMD =`formail -xSubject: |perl -pe 's/(.*sub.*)\s+[^\s]+\@[^\s]+/$1/sg;s/^\s+//g;s/\s+$//g;'` DATEMARK = `date +"%s"` :0 ic # "i" -- supress "writing errors" ('header/body passed to nothing' error) * ^Subject:.*sub | echo "$SUBJADDR $SUBJCOMD" > $tmpreqloc/$DATEMARK # If the same address, re-formulate a subscription mail to server #---------------------------------------------------------------- :0 * ? formail -rtzxTo: | multigram -b1 -x$listreq -x$listaddr \ -l$reject_threshold $tmpreqloc/$DATEMARK | (formail -I"From: $FROMADDR" -I"Subject: $SUBJCOMD") \ | $SENDMAIL -oi $listreq # If different address, email the target person for confirmation #--------------------------------------------------------------- :0 E | (formail -i"From: $listreq" -i"Subject: subscription confirmation needed" \ -I "To: $SUBJADDR"; \ echo "Confirmation code: $DATEMARK"; \ echo " "; \ echo "This list server has received a '$SUBJCOMD' request for"; \ echo "$SUBJADDR from $FROMADDR"; \ echo " "; \ echo "If this is what you wanted and wish to confirm, please reply to"; \ echo "this mail, and copy the entire 'Confirmation code' line on the"; \ echo "top of this mail into the 'Subject:' field. The confirmation must"; \ echo "be made in 7 days. After 7 days, the request will be dropped from"; \ echo "the server."; \ echo " "; \ echo "List Daemon for ANGENMAP") | $SENDMAIL -oi $SUBJADDR } :0 * ^Subject:.*Confirmation code: { CONFNAM =`formail -xSubject: | perl -pe 's/Confirmation code:\s+([0-9]{9,})/$1/sg; s/[\s]+//g;'` COMMAND =`cat $tmpreqloc/$CONFNAM | perl -pe 's/^\s+//g;s/\s+$//g;s/\S+\s+(\S+)/$1/g'` :0 fhw * ? formail -rtzxTo: | multigram -b1 -x$listreq -x$listaddr \ -l$reject_threshold $tmpreqloc/$CONFNAM | formail -I"Subject: $COMMAND" :0 E | formail -I"Listmarster: sub/unsub help needed" | $SENDMAIL -oi $listmaster } ########### ### END ### ###########

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Re:sub/unsub behavior
by Zhiliang Hu 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Charlie Summers wrote: > At 1:35 PM -0400 8/21/05, Zhiliang Hu is rumored to have typed: > > > as the format in the quoted examples are not consistent > > They are PERFECTLY consistant; those with a single "#" are defaults in > rc.init; those with double "##" _change_ the default action. > > This is covered in the FAQ (see 2.1), available at > http://www.hartzler.net/smartlist/ - I suggest you read it. > > Charlie Summers I am learning PERFECT rules here. Thanks. How about my first question? Is it a Smartlist default feature that everyone can sub/unsub anyone else? (alternative is uncomment auto-sub/unsub to completely disable it?) Zhiliang

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sub/unsub behavior
by Zhiliang Hu 21 Aug '05

21 Aug '05

I did a few tests and found anyone can subscribe/unsubscribe any email address to my Smartlist by a "sub/unsub anyuser(a)anyaddress.domain". (The part worries me is the sub'ed/unsub'ed address does not receive a confirmation from the server - the confirmation is sent to the address that issued the requests only). I checked through the 'rc.custom' but didn't identify the line that control this behavior. Could someone please advice for my possible oversight? Also I have a comment on the format of the 'rc.custom' file -- often I am confused as which line to "uncomment", as in (quote): ----------------------------------------------------quote start #auto_subscribe = yes ##auto_subscribe # uncomment to disable unattended # subscription handling #auto_help ##auto_help = yes # uncomment to enable default help # responses to all undecipherable # requests -----------------------------------------------------quote end as the format in the quoted examples are not consistent, which leads one to twist the tongue for the logic wordings -- the first line (with single '#') or the 2nd line (with double '##')? Or the line with 'yes' or the line without 'yes'? Although I could have a good bet after a couple seconds on the 2nd ('##') line, I would suggest leave only one line for "comment"/"un-comment" for more clarity. In my opinion the first lines as perhaps headers only adds confusions. Comments? Thanks in advance. Zhiliang

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mail archive file
by Zhiliang Hu 17 Aug '05

17 Aug '05

Currently my Smartlist saves mail archive with permission 660 and group of the list account, like in: -rw-rw---- 1 slist slist 1860 Jun 6 09:38 4298 How may I change it to save with permission 644 or with a different group? (I have already made ~slist a member of another group), like in -rw-r--r-- 1 slist slist 1860 Jun 6 09:38 4298 -rw-rw---- 1 slist web 1860 Jun 6 09:38 4298 I guess it would be somewhere in rc.submit but appreciate any hint. Thanks, Zhiliang

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alternative smtp server from smartlist
by seth＠psy.au.dk 10 Aug '05

10 Aug '05

Normally I use sendmail on my own server for sending smartlist mail. However, for special reasons, I now need to use a remote smtp server for one particular list. I could not get the sendmail documentation to reveal to me the secret for doing that. And presuming that I can find it, then what would be sensible way to inform smartlist about it. I have guessed someting along the lines of using rc.custom and setting $sendmailOPT. Thanks for your advice. Sincerely, Seth Chaiklin

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