Smartlist January 2005

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by Kapoor, Nishikant X

All, I am trying to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc from http://www.ha-schneider.de/software/smartlist/ to set up an archive for a mailing list. I have renamed rc.local.s10.mhonarc to rc.local.s30 and added following line to rc.custom RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_30 = rc.local.s30 rc.local.s10 and rc.local.s20 are already in use and since I do not know how to merge the recipe in rc.local.s10.mhonarc with either of the two, I renamed it to rc.local.s30 and added a new line in rc.custom. Could someone please help me understand as to how it all works. Thanks Nishi

6 years, 1 month

Archive egrep

by Alan Northam

The following is a sample of the results of a search that I receive by email. This there a way to hide the line number? ARCHIVE egrep august latest/* BEGIN---------------cut here------------------ latest/10:16:Monday, August 27, 2001 latest/11:16:Tuesday, August 21, 2001 latest/12:16:Wednesday, August 29, 2001 END-----------------cut here------------------ Thanks for your help! Alan,

6 years, 1 month

modify the subscribe/unsubscribe-mail

by Martin M=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=ller

hi! how can i modyfiy the text for the automatic subscribe/unsubscribe-mail? The possibilities of a *subscribe.txt*-file in my folder are not enough for me. I want suppress the information about the transmited data and translate the rest of the mail to german. TIA, martin -- "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft?" - Christine Comaford, PC Week

6 years, 1 month

Archives?

by Mitchell Darer

Hello: Does SmartList have an archiving and (hopefully user friendly) search capability? [I'm not interested in the archives of this Disc List, but of the list I run for my 'users']. Thanks, Mitch Darer -- Mitchell Darer, WebMaster, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222 (phone/fax)

6 years, 1 month

Re: does anyone find it ironic that smartlist mailing list is using Mailman?

by Charlie Summers

At 11:41 AM -0400 7/28/00, Werner Reisberger is rumored to have typed: > I never saw any > admin reply to the numerous complains about spam messages. Actually, that's not _strictly_ true, since I remember when Stephen was actually maintaining the list (and probably anally have archives of the list from that time somewhere on some floppy or MO cart from a long time ago and far far away). But you're right, it's been _years_ since he's been around. However, the list belongs to the maintainer (or at least the machine's admin), not the members. You'll get no argument from me that the list should be moved (I believe I said exactly that a couple of times), but to suggest the admins need to take a poll to ask what they may or may not do with the existing list is silly, to say the least. They are certainly able to move this list to mailman without the list subscriber's permission - indeed, they _have_ done so, which makes my point for me. Whether we should move this list to a SmartList server is a completely seperate issue...one which Philip should probably weigh in on, since he is now maintaining the procmail/SmartList source and as such the de facto head of our band of merry wanderers... Charlie

6 years, 1 month

Re: rc.local config question

by rgball＠ellerbach.com

On [2005-Jan-10] Stan Goodman <sgood(a)hashkedim.com> wrote: > > > SPAMTRAP=mylistspam > > No "$" before the name of the variable here? Why? A programming convention adopted by Stephen when he created procmail and its scripting language. If you look in rc.init and rc.custom you'll see that all variables are defined this way (no $ in the definition, $ preceeds the name for simple substitutions). While in general I agree with Charlie that an email list is not the place to learn basic programming technigues it's not as if the SmartList list is overwhelmed with traffic :-) > > It is written in "procmail" (use man procmail and man formail as a > > starting point to understand the recipes/instructions in smartlist > > (smartlist is 'written' in procmail and in sh) > > Very compact language. Very little intuitive baggage. Not for the faint of > heart. Lean and fast, the criteria needed when dealing with system-level email and especially back when the program was created -- machines were not as fast as they are now and you couldn't afford slowness when tens of thousands of email messages were going through the processing. > I don't have any files of the form rc.local.rxx (only rc.local.sxx); I assume > that I can put the snippet into an otherwise empty one. No header is required? Take a look in rc.custom near the bottom. This is where the connection is made between the variables like RC_LOCAL_REQUEST_XX and the actual filenames like rc.local.rxx. To actually have rc.submit or rc.request call the rclocal.xxx modules you need to uncomment the appropriate variable in rc.custom. If you look in rc.request you'll see that, if defined, rc.local.r00 is called right after rc.init and rc.custom are called to define all the list's parameters. So everything that is defined in those two modules will be "known" to rc.local.r00 when it executes. Rich

19 years, 8 months

Re: rc.local config question

by rgball＠ellerbach.com

On [2005-Jan-10] Stan Goodman <sgood(a)hashkedim.com> wrote: > > If I understand the above correctly, this is a snippet intended to examine an > incoming message, and determine if there is an address in any of the named > headers that is identical to an address in the dist file, and, if not, to throw > it into a file called . SPAMTRAP (I think the "$" is not part of the filename; > is that correct? Pretty much. The variable $SPAMTRAP is assigned a file name via an entry like SPAMTRAP=mylistspam which preceeds the recipe given and where mylistspam is the actual filename that will be used when procmail writes if the recipe succeeds. > > I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong (I don't even know the name of the > language in which thise scripts are written, so anything is possible). It is written in "procmail" (use man procmail and man formail as a starting point to understand the recipes/instructions in smartlist (smartlist is 'written' in procmail and in sh) > > I think there is more to its main paragraph that than, because I can't account > for all the terms. > > I am not clear what to do with the sentence "(define $SPAMTRAP to be a file of > your choice)". How define? see above > > In what file is this piece of script intended to go? And does it matter where > in that file it is located? That little recipe would go in rc.local.r00. It is, as Charlie pointed out, quite draconian. Once in place then only messages purporting to come from someone already subscribed to your list will get through so you might want to at least examine what gets put into the $SPAMTRAP file every once and awhile. The rc.local.r00 file goes into the directory containing all of the other list's files. If all this makes very little sense thenI'd spend some time looking at the existing rc.local.** files (along with rc.submit and rc.request) to start getting a basic idea of what each does and why. You don't need to be an 'adept' to make small changes but some familiarity is a really good idea. I assume you can also make up a test list in which to run your additions before commiting them to a real list. Rich

19 years, 8 months

Re: rc.local config question

by rgball＠ellerbach.com

To simply divert messages to the request-address that don't come from current subscribers you can use the same mechanism smartlist uses to restrict postings, i.e. formail/multigram and the dist file (define $SPAMTRAP to be a file of your choice) :0: * !? formail -X"From " -xFrom: -xReply-To: -xSender: -xResent-From: \ -xResent-Reply-To: -xResent-Sender: -xReturn-Path: | \ multigram -b1 -m -l$submit_threshold -L$domain \ -x$listaddr -x$listreq dist $SPAMTRAP if you want to be a little less restrictive you can use (as was mentioned by Jim Osborn) an approach which uses SpamAssassin (SA) to check for the spamishness of messages that aren't from subscribers: WHITEU=dist FROM = `formail -IReply- -rtzxTo:` :0 * ! ? fgrep -i $FROM $WHITEU { INCLUDERC=spamcheck.rc } -- where spamcheck.rc is tuned to whatever spam-finding package you prefer, for instance a simple-minded (and low-volume) SA approach could be: :0fw | /usr/local/bin/spamassassin :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes $SPAMTRAP Rich

19 years, 8 months

Re: rc.local config question

by rgball＠ellerbach.com

On [2005-Jan-10] Charlie Summers <charlie(a)lofcom.com> wrote: > At 1:57 PM -0500 1/10/05, rgball(a)ellerbach.com is rumored to have typed: > > > To simply divert messages to the request-address that don't come from > > current subscribers you can use the same mechanism smartlist uses to > > restrict postings > > Which begs a question...how does one subscribe to this hypothetical > mailing list? :-) By invitation only? > > Charlie (who deals with spam on the system level instead) oui, when I have the system-level tools available -- when I don't I make do. These days my smartlist-hosting duties are nil because I no longer have access to a machine that is a) capable of running a list and b) has procmail on it. Rich

19 years, 8 months

rc.local config question

by Irwin Lazar

Hi All, I'm trying to set up the confirm package for one of my mailing lists. In the directions it says to uncomment rc.local.s10 and create a matching file containing the confirm code. However, I currently use rc.local.s10 to insert the list name into the subject line of all messages distributed by the list. I am also using rc.local.s00 to block attachments and rc.local.s20 to add a footer with unsubscribe instructions to all list messages, so all the default rc.local file calls are in use. Is it possible to combine any of these functions? For example, if I pasted the code from rc.local.s10 into the bottom of rc.local.s20 would it be able to perform both functions (inserting the subject line and the footer) within a single rc.local.s20 file? As an alternative, can I just create another rc.local.sXX file (rc.local.s30?) and add the call to rc.custom? Thanks, Irwin

19 years, 8 months

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