June 2004 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

How to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc ?
by Kapoor, Nishikant X 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

All, I am trying to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc from http://www.ha-schneider.de/software/smartlist/ to set up an archive for a mailing list. I have renamed rc.local.s10.mhonarc to rc.local.s30 and added following line to rc.custom RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_30 = rc.local.s30 rc.local.s10 and rc.local.s20 are already in use and since I do not know how to merge the recipe in rc.local.s10.mhonarc with either of the two, I renamed it to rc.local.s30 and added a new line in rc.custom. Could someone please help me understand as to how it all works. Thanks Nishi

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Archive egrep
by Alan Northam 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

The following is a sample of the results of a search that I receive by email. This there a way to hide the line number? ARCHIVE egrep august latest/* BEGIN---------------cut here------------------ latest/10:16:Monday, August 27, 2001 latest/11:16:Tuesday, August 21, 2001 latest/12:16:Wednesday, August 29, 2001 END-----------------cut here------------------ Thanks for your help! Alan,

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modify the subscribe/unsubscribe-mail
by Martin M=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=ller 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

hi! how can i modyfiy the text for the automatic subscribe/unsubscribe-mail? The possibilities of a *subscribe.txt*-file in my folder are not enough for me. I want suppress the information about the transmited data and translate the rest of the mail to german. TIA, martin -- "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft?" - Christine Comaford, PC Week

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Archives?
by Mitchell Darer 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

Hello: Does SmartList have an archiving and (hopefully user friendly) search capability? [I'm not interested in the archives of this Disc List, but of the list I run for my 'users']. Thanks, Mitch Darer -- Mitchell Darer, WebMaster, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222 (phone/fax)

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Re: does anyone find it ironic that smartlist mailing list is using Mailman?
by Charlie Summers 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

At 11:41 AM -0400 7/28/00, Werner Reisberger is rumored to have typed: > I never saw any > admin reply to the numerous complains about spam messages. Actually, that's not _strictly_ true, since I remember when Stephen was actually maintaining the list (and probably anally have archives of the list from that time somewhere on some floppy or MO cart from a long time ago and far far away). But you're right, it's been _years_ since he's been around. However, the list belongs to the maintainer (or at least the machine's admin), not the members. You'll get no argument from me that the list should be moved (I believe I said exactly that a couple of times), but to suggest the admins need to take a poll to ask what they may or may not do with the existing list is silly, to say the least. They are certainly able to move this list to mailman without the list subscriber's permission - indeed, they _have_ done so, which makes my point for me. Whether we should move this list to a SmartList server is a completely seperate issue...one which Philip should probably weigh in on, since he is now maintaining the procmail/SmartList source and as such the de facto head of our band of merry wanderers... Charlie

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Messages still bouncing
by Tim Dees 25 Jun '04

25 Jun '04

Thanks to those of you that replied to my earlier posting. The problem is still ongoing with other members of my list. When they attempt to post, they get messages that tell them that they are not authorized to post. The same message will go through if they try again. I have the dist and accept lists set up identically, e.g. everyone who is authorized to receive messages posted to the list can also post to the list. Further, some of the "Mail delivery subsystem" error messages I am receiving are showing that my own address (the one from which I am posting this message and to which I receive more than 100 messages a day) is invalid. I freely admit to being a dope in this area, so if anyone has any suggestions that will make administration of this list a bit more smooth, I would appreciate hearing about them. Tim Dees tim(a)timdees.com

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Re: Errors on delivery of messages
by Donald MacDougall 23 Jun '04

23 Jun '04

On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 09:03:52PM -0700, Tim Dees wrote: > I am a new Smartlist user, so please forgive any really obvious ignorance. > The messages on my list are mostly getting delivered to the list members, > but all of the messages delivered to my mailbox have the subject line "Mail > delivery failed: returning message to sender" or something similar. The > very bottom of this message will usually have the body of the message posted > to the list by another user. Does anyone have any suggestions for making > this delivery system resemble something a little more normal-looking? > > Tim Dees > tim(a)timdees.com I guess you'd have to tell what would be "more normal-looking" to you. It sounds pretty normal to me. Your list is sending mail to mailservers which for one reason or another are unable to complete the delivery. It might be temporary, like say the user is overquota, or permanent like the address is no longer valid. So the server for these members return the mail to you, the list owner and therefore the sender. Somewhere in the message it may tell you why it was unable to complete the delivery. Or are you saying that you get a delivery failed message on messages that actually didn't fail? If I've missed your point, maybe you could make it clearer. Don MacDougall dmacdoug(a)usc.edu

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headers
by C. L. Etheridge 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

Greetings I know my question has been answered here before but I am not smart enough to implement the solution successfully. We are on a shared commercial server webhost which allows me direct access to SmartList code but not direct access to sendmail etc. My subscribers complain they aren't getting our (opt-in) newsletter. I have told them to put our domain on their ISP whitelists which some claim to have done. I know we get filtered by Yahoo Mail to the bulk mail filters. AOL seems to trash us directly. We are not on blacklists so presumably most is due to headers. The recipient sees in his/her Outlook Express: From: "Larc Webmaster" <webmaster(a)OURDOMAIN.org> To: newsletter(a)OURDOMAIN.org Reply-To: webmaster(a)OURDOMAIN.org I guess I am stuck with that "to" line using SmartList (that is, no individual recipient addressing), which certainly results in some deletions as spam. In the hidden headers (the shared server is globalnameservers.com, where we are user-id larc): X-Authentication-Warning: host10.globalnameservers.com: larc set sender to newsletter-request(a)OURDOMAIN.org using -f I have added the recommended code to remove X headers to my rc.local.s20 but this still appears (presumably added by sendmail which I cannot access). The other additions to rc.local.s20 work fine (referencing my custom footer.txt). Could this be leading to spam deletions? Similarly: Return-Path: <newsletter-request(a)OURDOMAIN.org> Can I or should I be concerned about this? I do not want to screw up my Smartlist. Thanks for any assistance. Smartlist is very handy but if our susbcribers don't get the messages it is futile. Chas powercat(a)verizon.net

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Errors on delivery of messages
by Tim Dees 18 Jun '04

18 Jun '04

I am a new Smartlist user, so please forgive any really obvious ignorance. The messages on my list are mostly getting delivered to the list members, but all of the messages delivered to my mailbox have the subject line "Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender" or something similar. The very bottom of this message will usually have the body of the message posted to the list by another user. Does anyone have any suggestions for making this delivery system resemble something a little more normal-looking? Tim Dees tim(a)timdees.com

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Re: [SmartList] Re: faked from addresses getting through to my lists
by Terry Todd 16 Jun '04

16 Jun '04

I think I have solved the problem in a very simple way. I used to have my email address listed in the dist file as follows tlt(a)tltodd.com I changed it to just, tlt without the @tltodd.com. Now the types of spam that were faking being me are being rejected. Here's an example header from one of them. > From tlt(a)tltodd.com Mon Jun 14 20:09:45 2004 > Received: from AM-XXK ([218.22.151.181]) > by tltodd.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA31512; > Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:09:42 -0500 (CDT) > (envelope-from tlt(a)tltodd.com) > X-Message-Info: 952DXU698SGl27mufALBrsLPN694MC5lSZGquO51 > Received: from 49.232.72.60 by heublein21-or74.atom906.tlt(a)tltodd.com with DAV; > Wed, 16 Jun 2004 02:13:23 +0100 > Message-ID: <1977290425195.12559@tlt@tltodd.com> > X-Originating-IP: [152.141.110.254] > X-Originating-Email: [tlt(a)tltodd.com] > X-Sender: tlt(a)tltodd.com > Reply-To: "Freddie Paul" <tlt(a)tltodd.com> > From: "Freddie Paul" <tlt(a)tltodd.com> > To: "Tlt" <tlt(a)tltodd.com> > Subject: hiTlt > Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:10:23 -0700 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="--6022717837479247247" > X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list > X-Envelope-To: [my-mailing-list] The spammers apparently haven't figured out how to match my email address with my real name. Notice how the Message-ID: field is also faked to be from my system. I can now send messages to the list from my localhost without any problem and not get faked messages coming through. Tell me if there are any flaws in this that you might think of. Terry Todd

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