March 2003 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

Is it possible to run two choplists on the one dist file?
by Andrew Billinghurst 14 Mar '03

14 Mar '03

We run a very very very big mailing list (a newsletter) under SmartList and after 30 hours it is still the delivering mail. Now we have had to have choplist produce it in bite sized pieces (down to 25) as too many ISPs simply refuse it when trying to deliver to more than that. <sigh> I was wondering whether there was a way to have two choplist processes running on the same dist list, or to split the dist list and have two choplist processes run it. The server has heaps of spare load capacity to do this so that shouldn't be a limiting factor. Note that I am not much of a programmer but can muddle through an existing installation of SmartList to make do. :-) Regards, Andrew

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where to find scripts
by Linda Wack 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

I inadvertently deleted my archived version of the default digest script. My "improvements" to the script now result in a digest full of "Unidentified Subject" topic lines and no posts, so I would like to start over and try again. I looked through the documentation, but can't find any reference to a site that has the original Smartlist scripts. I have flush_digests working correctly, but was trying to modify the digest script to make it plain text and to include another line between posts to make it look better. Seems simple enough following the documentation, but I must have introduced a renegade character somewhere along the way and I'm having some trouble deciphering the log to reveal the problem. So I'd like to start over with the default script. thanks, Linda

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Re: FW: How to redirect bounced emails to /dev/null instead of moderator ?
by Martin MOKREJŠ 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Kapoor, Nishikant X wrote: > > At times, subscribers in my mailing list have their quota > > full (or their mail server is down, etc. etc.) and as a > > result, postings to their addresses bounce. All these bounced > > emails are then coming back to me since I am the moderator of > > the list. I am managing three moderated lists, each having > > 1000+ subscribers and so, these bounced emails are turning > > out to be quite overwhelming. > > > > Is there a way to redirect these bounced emails to /dev/null > > instead of moderator ? Install procmail o so that it is used when emails get's delivered to you and put into your $HOME/.procmailrc :0: * ^FROM_MAILER $HOME/mail/daemon.mbox :0: * ^MAIL_DEAMON $HOME/mail/daemon.mbox That will catch all of the bounced messages. But only those related to the lists. So add a line or two to the conditions to check they originated only from a list (note, you will have to check BODY of the mail for listnames). -- Martin Mokrejs <mmokrejs(a)natur.cuni.cz>, <m.mokrejs(a)gsf.de> PGP5.0i key is at http://www.natur.cuni.cz/~mmokrejs MIPS / Institute for Bioinformatics <http://mips.gsf.de> GSF - National Research Center for Environment and Health Ingolstaedter Landstrasse 1, D-85764 Neuherberg, Germany tel.: +49-89-3187 3683 , fax: +49-89-3187 3585

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smartlist is not sending message to group
by Gordon Hollenbeck 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

I am trying to get a newsletter mailing list set up and there are some problems. Once I use my host's Control Panel to create a newsletter list and upload a new rc.custom file (using newlines as line terminators) and a new dist file (using newlines), SmartList fails to send the messages. It is currently set up so that only people on the accept list can send messages. But since no one is in that list, only the list administrator can send messages. If I send a message to the list using the admin's email address as mine, the message is send ONLY back to me (as the admin's address). No one else on the list receives the message. Has anyone experienced this problem before? Attached is my rc.custom (renamed) and dist. "I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not so sure." Gordon Hollenbeck | Email: ghollenbeck(a)NOSPAMmurtos.com AKA: Thrawn / Jabber: gordon1986(a)jabber.com ICQ: 60306035 / MSN: ghollenbeck1986(a)NOSPAMhotmail.com ---------------+---------------------------------------- Phoenix Online Open Souce, 3D, MMORPG The Next Wave Looking for web host http://www.murtos.com/po/

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FW: How to redirect bounced emails to /dev/null instead of moderator ?
by Kapoor, Nishikant X 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

Sending it again hoping I will get some help this time... > -----Original Message----- > From: Kapoor, Nishikant X > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:29 AM > > At times, subscribers in my mailing list have their quota > full (or their mail server is down, etc. etc.) and as a > result, postings to their addresses bounce. All these bounced > emails are then coming back to me since I am the moderator of > the list. I am managing three moderated lists, each having > 1000+ subscribers and so, these bounced emails are turning > out to be quite overwhelming. > > Is there a way to redirect these bounced emails to /dev/null > instead of moderator ? > > Thanks > Nishi

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Message Approval
by Mitch Darer 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

I've been through the Manual & the FAQ, the parts on remote administration & mesage approval [on a moderated list] are confusing to me. Sorry. Simply, can I approve messages via an X-Command? I've used it for sub/unsub in the past, but not approving. All help appreciated. Thanks, Mitch -- Mitchell Darer, Systems Support / List Manager, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222, fax(845) 678-2276

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Approval/Redirect
by Mitch Darer 08 Mar '03

08 Mar '03

Thanks Charlie, yes I'm testing w/ an old NS, not sure that they have a "Redirect" function, merely a Forward. But that's ok, I'm only setting up the list & testing. I'll hand it over to the person who will take over moderating once it's all working. Now, here's the next question: He uses ' AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 45' [according to full header]. Does anyone know how to effect a 'Redirect' in that email sw ? Or some other/workaround that he could use to Approve msgs from that email sw. Thanks, Mitch -- Mitchell Darer, Systems Support / List Manager, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222, fax(845) 678-2276

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Suggestions for SL-based bug tracker
by Jim Osborn 07 Mar '03

07 Mar '03

A developer (of a line of Windows products) I know is abandoning his Yahoo-groups forums for good reasons, and moving to a web-based "Help Desk" package that sounds ghastly---can't post to it via email, for one thing. He thinks it'll make life better for him, by assigning tracking numbers and organizing the threads that his largely-clueless customers seem incapable of doing on their own. Some of the current beta testers are howling in protest, wanting to keep an email capability, and some are even advocating his moving to my provider's site that hosts secure SmartList lists economically. (A lot of the beta testers subscribe to a related list that I maintain.) If I were in his position, I'd want to use SmartList in conjunction with whatever additiions made sense to impliment a system for providing help and tracking feedback from beta testers. So, my question to this esteemed group is, what do you know of that's off the shelf that I could suggest to this guy? The basic requirements seem to be some means of assigning ticket numbers to bugs, or individual product support issues, and a searchable archive, in addition to the usual mailing-list features. He's probably hopelessly wedded to his help-desk web thingie, but it seems worth at least pointing him to something more user friendly if I can. TIA, Jim

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Moderated list question
by Mitch Darer 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Hi: On anew mailing list I'm setting up, when I take a subscribers submission, and approve it, then when it goes out to the list, the "From" field is MY address which is incorrect & misleading. How do I make the "From" field reflect the email address of the person who actually submitted the message? Thanks, Mitch -- Mitchell Darer, Systems Support / List Manager, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222, fax(845) 678-2276

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Re: HTML troubles
by Harshal 06 Mar '03

06 Mar '03

Violet wrote: > Multipart/alternative/html/encoded woes ... ... Violet, I wish I could help you but this message is more of a 'me too!'. I too bounce all encoded email and I frequently hear 'but yahoogroups can handle it just fine'. I have been asked if I could implement what Y!Groups does - in a multipart message, send only the plain-text part and include an informative line like 'this message contained attachments'. I have dabbled in procmail recipes but this seemed too daunting so I haven't tried anything yet. If anyone has tried something like this or has a recipe which is different from the 'all or nothing' one in the FAQ, please let me know. > The past few months a lot of my list members have taken to saying, > "Smartlist isn't very smart, is it?" every time the program has > difficulties handling particular types of messages. I know how you feel... Regards, Harshal ===== http://www.mumbai-central.com : Where Mumbaikars meet __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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