January 2003 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

How to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc ?
by Kapoor, Nishikant X 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

All, I am trying to use rc.local.s10.mhonarc from http://www.ha-schneider.de/software/smartlist/ to set up an archive for a mailing list. I have renamed rc.local.s10.mhonarc to rc.local.s30 and added following line to rc.custom RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_30 = rc.local.s30 rc.local.s10 and rc.local.s20 are already in use and since I do not know how to merge the recipe in rc.local.s10.mhonarc with either of the two, I renamed it to rc.local.s30 and added a new line in rc.custom. Could someone please help me understand as to how it all works. Thanks Nishi

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Archive egrep
by Alan Northam 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

The following is a sample of the results of a search that I receive by email. This there a way to hide the line number? ARCHIVE egrep august latest/* BEGIN---------------cut here------------------ latest/10:16:Monday, August 27, 2001 latest/11:16:Tuesday, August 21, 2001 latest/12:16:Wednesday, August 29, 2001 END-----------------cut here------------------ Thanks for your help! Alan,

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modify the subscribe/unsubscribe-mail
by Martin M=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=ller 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

hi! how can i modyfiy the text for the automatic subscribe/unsubscribe-mail? The possibilities of a *subscribe.txt*-file in my folder are not enough for me. I want suppress the information about the transmited data and translate the rest of the mail to german. TIA, martin -- "Who needs horror movies when we have Microsoft?" - Christine Comaford, PC Week

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Archives?
by Mitchell Darer 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

Hello: Does SmartList have an archiving and (hopefully user friendly) search capability? [I'm not interested in the archives of this Disc List, but of the list I run for my 'users']. Thanks, Mitch Darer -- Mitchell Darer, WebMaster, mitch(a)focusing.org The Focusing Institute, 34 East Lane, Spring Valley, NY 10977 http://www.focusing.org (845) 362-5222 (phone/fax)

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Re: does anyone find it ironic that smartlist mailing list is using Mailman?
by Charlie Summers 19 Jul '18

19 Jul '18

At 11:41 AM -0400 7/28/00, Werner Reisberger is rumored to have typed: > I never saw any > admin reply to the numerous complains about spam messages. Actually, that's not _strictly_ true, since I remember when Stephen was actually maintaining the list (and probably anally have archives of the list from that time somewhere on some floppy or MO cart from a long time ago and far far away). But you're right, it's been _years_ since he's been around. However, the list belongs to the maintainer (or at least the machine's admin), not the members. You'll get no argument from me that the list should be moved (I believe I said exactly that a couple of times), but to suggest the admins need to take a poll to ask what they may or may not do with the existing list is silly, to say the least. They are certainly able to move this list to mailman without the list subscriber's permission - indeed, they _have_ done so, which makes my point for me. Whether we should move this list to a SmartList server is a completely seperate issue...one which Philip should probably weigh in on, since he is now maintaining the procmail/SmartList source and as such the de facto head of our band of merry wanderers... Charlie

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Troubleshoot recipe to prevent repeating footer
by Lists 24 Jan '03

24 Jan '03

I plucked this recipe from the FAQ's for rc.local.s20. It isn't working at all - no footers are getting inserted. Any clues what may be wrong? Can you also explain how much of the footer.txt files this 'pulls in' to compare against the message? Jo # # Add text below each message - this one prevents duplication # TEXT=`sed -n '2 p' <footer.txt` :0 fbBw * $ ! $\TEXT | cat - footer.txt

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Limit archive server requests?
by Charlie Summers 20 Jan '03

20 Jan '03

Folks; Has anyone written any add-ons for SmartList to limit the number of archive server requests any given address may submit within a given timeframe? Before I look at playing around with it, I figured I'd better ask to avoid re-inventing the wheel... Charlie

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Re: Wrong address unsubscribed
by Don Doumakes 17 Jan '03

17 Jan '03

On 2003.01.06 15:38 Jim Osborn wrote: > I'm totally confused by the statement "I have indeed replaced A with > B". No wonder, since I stupidly reversed the symbols. Twice. Sorry. The story with real names this time: subscribers David and Leo dislike each other. Leo has blocked mail from David. David posted to the list, so David's list traffic bounced from Leo's address. SmartList removed David, the innocent party. (I double-checked, and that time I told the tale right-side-out.) Anyway, David is reinstated and Leo is banned for the present. Hopefully Charlie Summers' testing will lead to something more palatable to Leo. -- Don Doumakes

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Wrong address unsubscribed
by Don Doumakes 07 Jan '03

07 Jan '03

I'm using the latest version of SmartList. Recently I had an episode in which subscriber A started selectively bouncing all mail from subscriber B. SmartList automatically unsubscribed subscriber B, rather than the address creating the bounced mail (A). Leaving aside the question of why A and B can't just get along, is there a solution to the erroneous behavior? Is this a bug of which the developers are aware? -- Don Doumakes

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Re: Wrong address unsubscribed
by Don Doumakes 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

On 2003.01.06 11:23 Charlie Summers wrote: > It's unlikely he's "bouncing" mail through his SMTP server; I > could, for > example, add your address to sendmail's access file as a REJECT, but > your > list messages would still get through, since when the list distributes > a > message _it_ is the envelope sender, not you. Looks more like A is > doing > something with procmail, or worse some moronic Windoze application > that > trusts the From: header field. That makes sense. Clearly, though, A is somehow returning an error return to the MTA. Mr. A is an AOL subscriber. The bounce message from the AOL mailer daemon to the list-request address (addresses munged) says: > From MAILER-DAEMON(a)mymachine.mydomain.net Fri Jan 3 07:58:09 2003 Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON(a)mymachine.mydomain.net> Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.159.1]) by mymachine.mydomain.net (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id h03Dw4602881 for <mylist-request(a)mydomain.net>; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:58:04 -0600 Received: from air-xi03.mail.aol.com (air-xi03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.3]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id RELAYIN10-0103085745; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 08:57:45 -0500 from: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON(a)aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 08:55:58 EST To: <mylist-request(a)mydomain.net> Subject: Mail Delivery Problem Mailer: AIRmail [v90.10] Message-ID: <200301030857.10IdEFUa06586(a)omr-d03.mx.aol.com> Your mail to the following recipients could not be delivered because they are not accepting mail from A(a)aol.com: B I don't have an informed opinion on whether this is a malformed bounce. (Do you?) In any case, B was eventually told: Your mail address B has been removed from the mylist(a)mydomain.net mailinglist. It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails. > Your specific problem doesn't seem to call for a technical > solution, but > rather a social one. My solution would be, as listmaster, to reinstate > B and > immediately unsubscribe A until A bought a clue on how to tell the > difference > between Return-Path: and From:. The suggestion at a social solution is well taken, and I have indeed replaced A with B. Still, I'm guessing that as an AOL subscriber, A lacks the kind of tools that would make it possible to bounce more politely. Sooner or later this problem will be back, with a different cast of characters, and it would be nice to solve it technically. -- Don Doumakes

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