Howdy,
I know this subject has been visited before but....
Has anyone come up with any heuristics that procmail can
use to determine that a message to a mailing list from a
poorly configured autoresponder (the message appears to come
from an individual and does not include headers from
daemons, proper Precendence: , etc) and prevent it from
creating an infinite loop with the mailing list?
I realize people who can't properly setup an autoresponder
have no business using one and should be publicly humiliated
at their local soccer stadium, however this is not an option
available to me.
Cheers,
--Paul T.
Cueman
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Good Morning,
I run a list for our tech support department that sends an auto-reply to
the original sender. My problem is this e-mail address gets a boatload
of spam. But when the messages come through smartlist has stripped the
original message headers. Is there any way to keep the original message
headers so that I can use them to block spam?
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry Sloan
Network/System Admin
fP Technologies, Inc
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than on our face."
Michel de Montaigne
It's not really a smartlist issue, but more of an
administrative issue.
I seem to get the occasional user that subscribes under one
address, but then forwards the list emails from that address
to another. Unfortunately the address that message gets
forwarded to gets full or disabled and the servers that
handle the bounce loose the original headers along the way.
This makes it hard to for the smartlist to unsub an address
that it does not have. Sometimes I can find some clue in
the header that lets me figure out the correct address to do
it manually, but I've seem to have gotten a bounce that has
little info.
Does anyone have suggestion for tracking down the `pop` box
that is forwarding the email?
On [2002-Jan-18] Charlie Summers <charlie(a)lofcom.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
> There are various scripts out there you can use to send your probe, or you
> can write a simple one yourself. Just make sure there's info in the Subject:
> header field _and_ the body to give yourself a better chance of figuring out
> what address went dead.
>
> Charlie (who nominates this for a FAQ...)
Charlie,
If it warrants FAQ status maybe it'd be better to include the names & contact info for a few of those scripts "out there" (a quicky google search for "email perl probe" doesn't seem to grab anything interesting).
Rich
Most common problem is the user placing security restrictions to not receive
internet e-mail. This is frustrating because they can send e-mail to you,
but you can not reply.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Funck [mailto:gary@intrepid.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 11:51 AM
To: Smartlist(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE
Cc: CueMan
Subject: RE: AOL email troubles?
Paul T. wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:08 AM
> Subject: AOL email troubles?
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone out there with AOL subscribers on your SmartList(s) not
> receiving all your deliveries or maybe not being able to post
> to your list from AOL?
>
> Thanks and happy holidays!
>
> --Paul T.
This may provide a possible explanation:
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200201/msg0006
6.html
[...]
>I work for a company that delivers large amounts of e-mail for Fortune-1000
>companies.
>
>We had a very similar problem with AOL: we started to see many of our
>messages fail to arrive in AOL mailboxes even though AOL reported they were
>successfully accepted for delivery.
>
>Sending one or two messages at a time would work flawlessly, but when
>sending anything larger, some might arrive while many would not.
>
>After a lot of testing, we discovered AOL has some very interesting
policies
>regarding email delivery.
>
>In a nutshell, if you deliver more than some number messages to AOL within
>an a certain timeframe, AOL will accept them for delivery but in actuality,
>delete them without notice. The metrics AOL uses to decide what should or
>should not be delivered are not published.
[...]
background:
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200201/msg0006
1.html
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Smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE
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I have a request from one of the lists that I support to provide a
"Welcome Letter" introducing new members to the list!
Rather than "just say no" I wondered if any of you have any ideas?
The letter would be sent to the list AFTER the new user is subscribed
and would read something like:
Please welcome <FIRSTNAME> <LASTNAME> to the List.
This would supposedly serve two purposes:
Let everyone know that there is a new list member
Let the new member receive an email from the list
(So where do I get <FIRSTNAME> <LASTNAME>?)
I've been thinking about adding a CGI form front end but thought some of
the SL gurus may have dealt with something like this previously.
TIA,
David W. Gulley
Destiny Designs
Hey!
I've been on the list a few months now hoping someone will bring this up, as
I've been unable to find it in the FAQ (although I have a geeky friend who
tells me it's a problem he's seen before.)
I run 4 comparatively small mailing lists (the biggest is about 150
subscribers.) I am hosted by nomonthlyfees.com, which seems decent most of
the time, but has been really terrible about this particular problem. It's
compounded by the fact that they have a web interface for
subscribe/unsubscribes and charge extra for SSH access, which is not
something I particularly want to purchase, since 1) it would necessitate
learning how to use it, and, for the most part I get along pretty well
without it and 2) I'm a poor college student.
I've customized each list to send custom subscribe/unsubscribe messages. Of
course, I upload these files to the directories of their respective lists.
The problem is that Smartlist sends whichever sub/unsub custom message I've
uploaded most recently to every subscriber who attempts to subscribe or
unsubscribe, (it sends them respectively, i.e., doesn't confuse subscribe
messages with unsubscribe messages) regardless of the list with which
they're trying to interact. Restated, a prospective subscriber for the XYZ
list gets whichever custom list subscribe message I uploaded most recently
rather than the message appropriate to the list of interest.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that the files are hard linked
someplace, and I think I could persuade the techs at nomonthlyfees to fix
the problem if I could pinpoint it more exactly. Of course, I could be
wrong.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
Matthew Poe
Hi,
Anyone out there with AOL subscribers on your SmartList(s) not
receiving all your deliveries or maybe not being able to post
to your list from AOL?
Thanks and happy holidays!
--Paul T.
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