October 2001 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

Large posts getting duplicated
by Doug Mansfield 31 Oct '01

31 Oct '01

Posts to one of my lists that are larger than 4.5K are being duplicated. The archive only has a single entry. The message headers are the same for both messages (except for the outgoing ID and date stamps). And as near as I can tell, it does not happen to everyone on the list. Just to confirm it, I subed a free yahoo account and it received the duplicates. My sendmail logs show both messages being delivered. Any idea? -- Doug

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Help please
by RoM_ServO 30 Oct '01

30 Oct '01

What does someone have to do to get some help with smarlist? Is there no in between hiring a consultant, and having someone help me with a couple of items??? I'm trying to learn here, and I think my question is one of the most basic smartlist problems--can someone help me figure out why the examples in the documentation for preventing [listname] from repeating in the subject clearly does not work???? If the documentation isnt helpful, where else am I supposed to turn to learn how to configure this thing?? Please help- Mike --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/2001

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Smartlist Not Unsubing Bounces...
by Thom Byxbe 30 Oct '01

30 Oct '01

Can somebody help PLEASE! I'm having a problem with bounces not unsubscribing... Not sure where to look... Have checked the FAQ and didn't see it... I am getting these X-Diagnostic: lines back if that helps... Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Old-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:23:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Diagnostic: Possible loopback problem ************* Thom Byxbe Byxbe(a)WorkBench.Net 248.661.8005 - Voice 209.755.8353 - Fax/Voice Mail ************* "There ain't no rules around here! We're trying to accomplish something!" - Thomas A. Edison

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unsuscribe
by Miguel Cruz 28 Oct '01

28 Oct '01

----- Original Message ----- From: <smartlist-request(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE> To: <smartlist(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Smartlist digest, Vol 1 #267 - 1 msg > Send Smartlist mailing list submissions to > smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/smartlist > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > smartlist-request(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > > You can reach the person managing the list at > smartlist-admin(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Smartlist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re:Loading a list of email addresses and performance (Werner Reisberger) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:35:15 +0200 > From: Werner Reisberger <werner(a)pure.ch> > To: "Austad, Jay" <austad(a)marketwatch.com> > Cc: "'smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE'" <smartlist(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE> > Subject: Re: Loading a list of email addresses and performance > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 01:05:10PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: > > Also, what email server does everyone recommend for maximum performance? > > I'm thinking Postfix or zmailer. Right now, I'm using qmail+ezmlm, and > > Postfix is surely a good choice. It's stable, fast, scalable and easy to > configure. > > > How does the performance of Smartlist compare with EZMLM? > > I don't know any people who used both with big lists. Let us > know about your experiences. > > Werner > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Smartlist mailing list > Smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > http://MailMan.RWTH-Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/smartlist > > > End of Smartlist Digest >

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Loading a list of email addresses and performance
by Austad, Jay 27 Oct '01

27 Oct '01

I'm planning on converting from ezmlm to Smartlist. How do I go about loading a text file of addresses into the list database? With ezmlm, I can just do: cat addresses.txt | xargs ezmlm-sub ~/DIR Is it something similar with Smartlist? Also, what email server does everyone recommend for maximum performance? I'm thinking Postfix or zmailer. Right now, I'm using qmail+ezmlm, and qmail spends A LOT of time processing queued mail because I have several lists with half a million subscribers or more. Basically, the smartlist server needs to just pass outgoing mail to my smarthost, but bounces and stuff are obviously going to come back to the Smartlist box. How does the performance of Smartlist compare with EZMLM? ---------- Jay Austad Network Administrator CBS Marketwatch 612.817.1271 austad(a)marketwatch.com <mailto:austad@marketwatch.com> http://cbs.marketwatch.com http://www.bigcharts.com

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postfix/procmail doesn't pass on the subscriber's address to the smartlist
by Chunnuan Chen 24 Oct '01

24 Oct '01

Hi, I installed smartlist on my Mandrake 8.1 Linux box and created a mailing list. However when I tried to subscribe to the list, I got nothing back. On the server side, the maintainer got an email with the subject of "Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender". The following is the whole email: ------------------------------------- Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: MAILER-DAEMON(a)bioweircom.com (Mail Delivery System) To: bio93-request(a)bioweircom.org This is the Postfix program at host www.bioweircom.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program <unknown>: Message processing aborted: No recipients specified ------------------------------------------------------------- Reporting-MTA: dns; www.bioweircom.com Arrival-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Final-Recipient: rfc822; unknown Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Message processing aborted: No recipients specified Subject: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: bio93-request(a)bioweircom.org (Listserver) To: undisclosed-recipients:; You have added to the subscriber list of: bio93(a)bioweircom.org the following mail address: By default, copies of your own submissions will be returned. This is an automated subscription mechanism. For your verification, a transcript of the original subscription request is included below. If the wrong address has been subscribed and you seem to be unable to fix it yourself, reply to this message now (quoting it entirely (for diagnostic purposes), and of course adding any comments you see fit). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I checked the log for postfix and found out the following related lines: ---------------------------------- Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/smtpd[22159]: connect from chench3.bioweircom.com[192.168.1.3] Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/smtpd[22159]: 5ED151E565: client=chench3.bioweircom.com[192.168.1.3] Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/cleanup[22160]: 5ED151E565: message-id=<3BD6D95D.AE6DF77F(a)sun.com> Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/qmgr[22157]: 5ED151E565: from=<chunnuan.chen(a)sun.com>, size=613, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/smtpd[22159]: disconnect from chench3.bioweircom.com[192.168.1.3] Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 procmail[22164]: Error while writing to "log" Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/pickup[22156]: BFD481E5A0: uid=417 from=<bio93-request(a)bioweircom.org> Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/cleanup[22160]: BFD481E5A0: message-id=<20011024151951.BFD481E5A0(a)www.bioweircom.com> Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/local[22162]: 5ED151E565: to=<bio93-request(a)bioweircom.org>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|exec /var/spool/listserv/.bin/flist bio93-request") Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/cleanup[22160]: BFD481E5A0: to=<unknown>, relay=cleanup, delay=0, status=bounced (Message processing aborted: No recipients specified) Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/cleanup[22194]: D88D21E565: message-id=<20011024151951.D88D21E565(a)www.bioweircom.com> Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 postfix/qmgr[22157]: D88D21E565: from=<>, size=2451, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Oct 24 08:19:51 chench1 procmail[22196]: Error while writing to "log" Oct 24 08:19:52 chench1 postfix/pickup[22156]: 1EE9E1E5A0: uid=417 from=<postmaster> Oct 24 08:19:52 chench1 postfix/cleanup[22160]: 1EE9E1E5A0: message-id=<20011024151951.D88D21E565(a)www.bioweircom.com> Oct 24 08:19:52 chench1 postfix/qmgr[22157]: 1EE9E1E5A0: from=<postmaster(a)bioweircom.com>, size=2790, nrcpt=1 (queue active)Oct 24 08:19:52 chench1 postfix/local[22162]: D88D21E565: to=<bio93-request(a)bioweircom.org>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|exec /var/spool/listserv/.bin/flist bio93-request") Oct 24 08:19:52 chench1 procmail[22223]: Attempt to fake stamp by "jwang" Oct 24 08:19:52 chench1 postfix/local[22162]: 1EE9E1E5A0: to=<jwang(a)bioweircom.org>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/usr/bin/procmail -o -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME") --------------------------------------- It seems to me the postfix or the procmail didn't pass on the subscriber's email address to the smartlist. My /etc/aliases contains the following lines: ######################################################################## bio93: "|exec /var/spool/listserv/.bin/flist bio93" bio93-request: "|exec /var/spool/listserv/.bin/flist bio93-request" ######################################################################## Can you tell me what might be wrong and how to fix it? Thanks, Chun-Nuan

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RE: Loading a list of email addresses and performance
by Austad, Jay 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

Will choplist still work with Exim? > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Burton West [mailto:roger@firedrake.org] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:26 PM > To: 'smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE' > Subject: Re: Loading a list of email addresses and performance > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 01:05:10PM -0500, Austad, Jay wrote: > >I'm planning on converting from ezmlm to Smartlist. How do > I go about > >loading a text file of addresses into the list database? > With ezmlm, I > >can just do: cat addresses.txt | xargs ezmlm-sub ~/DIR > >Is it something similar with Smartlist? > > cat addresses.txt >>~list/LISTNAME/dist > > >Also, what email server does everyone recommend for maximum > >performance? > > I like Exim; there are convenient recipes to avoid all that > mucking about with aliases files, and in my experience it's > an excellent high-performance mailer. (I recommend looking at > the exim-users archives at www.exim.org; there are quite a > few people using Exim in intense mailing-list > environments.) > > Nobody seems to have a solid performance comparison; it's too > dependent on other factors. > > Roger > _______________________________________________ > Smartlist mailing list > Smartlist(a)lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE > http://MailMan.RWTH-> Aachen.DE/mailman/listinfo/smartlist >

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Does SmartList support multiple 'maintainer=' lines?
by Patrick Salsbury 22 Oct '01

22 Oct '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, all. I've got one that doesn't seem to be in the FAQ... (http://www.hardlink.com/Support/Smartlist/) I was trying to set up a list that was going to be maintained by myself and another, novice user. In rc.custom, I put the following: maintainer = salsbury(a)sculptors.com maintainer = otheruser(a)their.domain When I was trying to use the 'doxcommand' script (customized for this list and password, using my name as maintainer) it didn't seem to want to mail me the dist file. However, when I went in and commented out the second entry, it sent the file without complaint. On the topic of complaint, during the first two times (run from two different machines, to make sure it wasn't freaking out based on where the mail was coming from), I saw the following error messages. It appears to think that it processed the request, but I never got a copy. Here's an excerpt from the list's "log" file: procmail: Extraneous deliver-head flag ignored - From salsbury(a)bucky.sculptors.com Mon Oct 22 02:20:14 2001 Subject: X-Processed: showdist of <newlist-request(a)sculptors.com> Folder: formail -R"From X-Envelope-From:" -iDate: -iReturn-Receipt-T 730 procmail: Extraneous deliver-head flag ignored - From salsbury(a)bootstrap.sculptors.com Mon Oct 22 02:26:57 2001 Subject: X-Processed: showdist of <newlist-request(a)sculptors.com> Folder: formail -R"From X-Envelope-From:" -iDate: -iReturn-Receipt-T 983 When I commented the second 'maintainer=' line out, the file *did* deliver to me, yet I saw the same message in the log. procmail: Extraneous deliver-head flag ignored - From salsbury(a)bootstrap.sculptors.com Mon Oct 22 02:28:06 2001 Subject: X-Processed: showdist of <newlist-request(a)sculptors.com> Folder: formail -R"From X-Envelope-From:" -iDate: -iReturn-Receipt-T 3671 So I guess the bonus question is: What's that error message mean? Should I be concerned? (Note also the seeming discrepancy between the file sizes. The third one is much closer to the size of the 'dist' file.) Thirdly, in looking at /var/log/maillog, I've discovered that those first two attempts seem to have, in actuality, delivered *something*, but they delivered it to the other (2nd) maintainer! Only when I commented that line out did I get a message, so it appears to go with the last "maintainer=" line. In light of that, I guess the answer to my question of: "Does SmartList support multiple 'maintainer=' lines?" is a simple "No." But the next question is: "Why not? And is there any way to get it to do this? Thanks for your attention and any insight you may have... - -- Pat ___________________Think For Yourself____________________ Patrick G. Salsbury - http://reality.sculptors.com/~salsbury/ The Reality Sculptors FAQ-O-Matic is online at: http://reality.sculptors.com/cgi-bin/fom --------------------------------------------------------- On every question of construction of the Constitution let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed. -- Thomas Jefferson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.2 Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iQA/AwUBO9PuN4JkhJBJYtPQEQJpYgCeMHVEkTeb/2jaAf6LHibqt57s0YMAn2cD geHMT7+M4qJybBXseIvJZkdm =gKGr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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announcement list: how control order that smartlist sends emails?
by john＠obz.co.za 21 Oct '01

21 Oct '01

Hello, Anyone know how to control the order by with Smartlist sends the emails contained within its announcement list? At the moment, my announcement list seems to send alphabetically, by domain. E.g First it sends address(a)domain.ac then address(a)domain.co.* etc I would like to personally received mail first and last; thus I'd know when the server began sending mail and when it completed sending to the list. TIA Howard

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linux as a mailgateway for lotus r5
by Tarique Ansari 20 Oct '01

20 Oct '01

Hi all, i have a linux 7.1 professional edition installed on one of my intel based machine which is acting as a mailgateway for lotus r5.i am using procmail as mta . but the problem is i have to maintain two address book.one is on lotus server and one is on linux. is there any way to configure my linux machine to just pass mail to lotus r5 and let lotus do all distribution to their mailboxes. -- Warm Regards Tarique Ansari Executive - Customer Support --

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