Dear Elie and everyone,
At 17:03 +0200 10/05/05, Elie Najm wrote:
Dear Otto (all),
In order to handle the publication problem with springer (and the
special
case of IWQoS'05), I need a copy of the IFIP - Springer agreement.
More specifically, I wish to check if the agreement covers the
price
at which the "IFIP-LNCS" series should be sold (publicly or
to
conference organisers). If the agreement does not stipulate any
constraint
then it may be the case that, "legally", Springer
is free to sell the "IFIP-LNCS" publications at a higher
price.
There is nothing in the agreement that forbids Springer to sell
at any price, but the problem is that Springer tells the conference
organizers that the 30% increase is due to IFIP royalties, which is
obviously not the case, and gives bad reputation to IFIP.
In MHO, the agreement should have covered
the pricing issue. It should
have stipulated that "IFIP-LNCS" should be sold at the same
price
as regular LNCS series.
I am afraid such agreement cannot go that far.
Anyhow, I think that we should discourage
Springer from presenting two
price lists to IFIP/TC6 event organisers. What means do we have to
enforce
this rule ?
Here is the email I sent to A. Hofmann on Monday on this
issue:
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:26:45 +0200
To: "Hofmann, Alfred, Springer DE"
<Alfred.Hofmann@springer-sbm.com>
From: Guy Leduc <Guy.Leduc@ulg.ac.be>
Subject: Re: AW: AW: IFIP publications in LNCS
Cc: <gutsmied@fmi.uni-passau.de>,
<iwqos@fmi.uni-passau.de>, "Guenther, Christine, Springer
DE" <Christine.Guenther@springer-sbm.com>, Otto Spaniol
<spaniol@informatik.rwth-aachen.de>, Elie Najm
<Elie.Najm@enst.fr>
Dear Alfred,
Let me come back to this issue of IWQoS
2005 and its publication in the IFIP LNCS series.
I was attending an IFIP TC6 meeting this
week-end and was able to discuss this issue with the
committee.
First of all, let me briefly quote
article 31e of the "AGREEMENT BETWEEN IFIP
AND SPRINGER SCIENCE+BUSINESS MEDIA" I read:
"Royalties to IFIP for volumes
published in IFIP LNCS will be paid as a one-time advance publication
fee upon publication of the respective volume, and will be 10% of the
estimated total sales of the volume, excluding bulk
sales."
If our understanding is correct, this
means that there is NO royalties due to IFIP on the bulk sales, and
only 10% of royalties on (the estimated) post conference
sales!
The current position of Springer LNCS on
this issue, which consists of advertizing two price lists (one for
standard LNCS and another one for IFIP LNCS) and of justifying the 30%
difference as a result of royalties due to IFIP thus violates this
agreement and should not be continued.
Therefore IFIP TC6 is firstly asking a
clarification on this issue.
Then, regarding IWQoS 2005 in particular,
we recommend to apply article 31e of this agreement, namely that the
conference proceedings should be published in IFIP LNCS, but at
the standard LNCS price.
Unless our understanding of the agreement
is incorrect, we also recommend that this should be the case for all
IFIP TC6 conferences published in IFIP LNCS from now on.
Finally, I copy this email to Prof. Otto
Spaniol, chairman of IFIP TC6, and to Prof. Elie Najm who has taken
over the chairmanship of IFIP WG6.1 since the 1st of January 2005. For
this reason, Elie will now be in charge of this issue for IWQoS
2005.
Best regards,
Guy
Former IFIP WG6.1 chairman
Best regards,
Elie
PS: I enjoyed the Toronto meeting and look forward to the next one
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