Due problems reported in accessing our WEB server the deadline for
***** Med-Hoc-Net 2002 *****
has been extended. The New deadline IS
******** J U L Y 15th *************
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The First Annual Mediterranean Ad Hoc Networking Workshop,Med-hoc-Net
2002, sponsored by IFIP, will take place in Hotel Chia Laguna (
http://www.hotelchialaguna.com ), Sardegna, Italy, Sept4-6,2002.
The aim of the Med-hoc-Net Workshop is to bring together researchers
from both sides of the Atlantic (and Pacific) to the shores of the
Mediterranean sea. The Workshop will serve as a forum for ad hoc network
technologists and visionaries from academia, industry and research labs,
to present current research, advanced technology, ongoing prototyping
efforts, experience reports, case studies, and descriptions of
innovative ad hoc systems.
Each offering of the Workshop will have a different theme.
The specific theme this year will be Quality of Service in ad hoc
networks.
The best papers will be published in a special issue of the ACM WINET
Journal
Invited speaker: Leonard Kleinrock(UCLA)
Topics will include (but are not limited to) :
QoS-Oriented multi-hop mobile network architectures, Intserv, Diffserv,
MPLS etc. protocols
over AdHoc networks
QoS support in Bluetooth, HomeR, HIPERLAN, IEEE 802.11 etc.
Multimedia applications Middleware for support in Ad Hoc networks and
real-time transports over Ad Hoc networks
Unicast and multicast routing in ad hoc multi-hop wireless networks
Resource discovery and network reconfiguration
Multimedia location services
Scheduling, radio resource sharing and MAC protocols for multi hop
networks
Call admission and traffic control policies for ad hoc networks
Power management and control algorithms
Fault tolerance and error recovery
Interconnection between Ad Hoc and wired networks
Congestion control
Ad Hoc TCP implementations
Fair sharing between different traffic classes
Performance evaluation of QoS-oriented protocols, middleware and
applications via measurement, analytical models or simulation
QoS enabling ad hoc network prototypes
Signal processing algorithms (coding, compression) for Ad Hoc networks
Security in Ad Hoc networks
General Chairs :
Mario Gerla and Guy Pujolle
Technical Program Chair :
Khaldoun Al Agha (LRI, France)
Technical Program Committee :
Arve Aagesen Norvegian University, Norway)
Hossam Afifi (INT, France)
Ian Akyildiz (Georgia Tech, USA)
Khaldoun Al Agha(LRI, France)
Hamid Aghvami (King's College London, UK)
Roberto Battiti (University of Trento, Italy)
Elizabeth Belding-Royer (UCSB, USA)
Raouf Boutaba (Waterloo, Canada)
Otto Duarte (UFRJ, Brazil)
Anne Fladenmuller (LIP6, France)
Jean-Pierre Hubaux (EPFL, Switzerland)
Philippe Jacquet (INRIA, France)
Farouk Kamoun (ENSI, Tunis, Tunisia)
Parviz Kermani (IBM, USA)
Ulf Körner(Lund University, Sweden)
Gérard Le Lann (INRIA, France)
Daniela Maniezzo (UCLA, USA)
Gianluca Mazzini (University of Ferrara, Italy)
Lazaros Merakos (University of Athens, Greece)
Guy Omidyar (CWC, Singapure)
Sergio Palazzo (University of Catania, Italy)
Giovanni Pau (UCLA, USA)
Kimmo Raatikainen (Univ. of Helsinki, Finland)
Tomas Robles (Univ. of Madrid DIM, Spain)
Jan Slavik (Testcom,CZ)
Sami Tabbabe (Sup Com)
Samir Tohmé (ENST, France)
Franco Vatalaro (University of Rome)
Bernhard Walke (Univ of Aachen, Germany)
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The First Annual Mediterranean Ad Hoc Networking Workshop,Med-hoc-Net
2002, sponsored by IFIP, will take place in Hotel Chia Laguna (
http://www.hotelchialaguna.com ), Sardegna, Italy, Sept4-6,2002.
The aim of the Med-hoc-Net Workshop is to bring together researchers
from both sides of the Atlantic (and Pacific) to the shores of the
Mediterranean sea. The Workshop will serve as a forum for ad hoc network
technologists and visionaries from academia, industry and research labs,
to present current research, advanced technology, ongoing prototyping
efforts, experience reports, case studies, and descriptions of
innovative ad hoc systems.
Each offering of the Workshop will have a different theme.
The specific theme this year will be Quality of Service in ad hoc
networks.
The best papers will be published in a special issue of the ACM WINET
Journal
Invited speaker: Leonard Kleinrock(UCLA)
Topics will include (but are not limited to) :
QoS-Oriented multi-hop mobile network architectures, Intserv, Diffserv,
MPLS etc. protocols
over AdHoc networks
QoS support in Bluetooth, HomeR, HIPERLAN, IEEE 802.11 etc.
Multimedia applications Middleware for support in Ad Hoc networks and
real-time transports over Ad Hoc networks
Unicast and multicast routing in ad hoc multi-hop wireless networks
Resource discovery and network reconfiguration
Multimedia location services
Scheduling, radio resource sharing and MAC protocols for multi hop
networks
Call admission and traffic control policies for ad hoc networks
Power management and control algorithms
Fault tolerance and error recovery
Interconnection between Ad Hoc and wired networks
Congestion control
Ad Hoc TCP implementations
Fair sharing between different traffic classes
Performance evaluation of QoS-oriented protocols, middleware and
applications via measurement, analytical models or simulation
QoS enabling ad hoc network prototypes
Signal processing algorithms (coding, compression) for Ad Hoc networks
Security in Ad Hoc networks
General Chairs :
Mario Gerla and Guy Pujolle
Technical Program Chair :
Khaldoun Al Agha (LRI, France)
Technical Program Committee :
Arve Aagesen Norvegian University, Norway)
Hossam Afifi (INT, France)
Ian Akyildiz (Georgia Tech, USA)
Khaldoun Al Agha(LRI, France)
Hamid Aghvami (King's College London, UK)
Roberto Battiti (University of Trento, Italy)
Elizabeth Belding-Royer (UCSB, USA)
Raouf Boutaba (Waterloo, Canada)
Otto Duarte (UFRJ, Brazil)
Anne Fladenmuller (LIP6, France)
Jean-Pierre Hubaux (EPFL, Switzerland)
Philippe Jacquet (INRIA, France)
Farouk Kamoun (ENSI, Tunis, Tunisia)
Parviz Kermani (IBM, USA)
Ulf Körner(Lund University, Sweden)
Gérard Le Lann (INRIA, France)
Daniela Maniezzo (UCLA, USA)
Gianluca Mazzini (University of Ferrara, Italy)
Lazaros Merakos (University of Athens, Greece)
Guy Omidyar (CWC, Singapure)
Sergio Palazzo (University of Catania, Italy)
Giovanni Pau (UCLA, USA)
Kimmo Raatikainen (Univ. of Helsinki, Finland)
Tomas Robles (Univ. of Madrid DIM, Spain)
Jan Slavik (Testcom,CZ)
Sami Tabbabe (Sup Com)
Samir Tohmé (ENST, France)
Franco Vatalaro (University of Rome)
Bernhard Walke (Univ of Aachen, Germany)
Augusto
It's really Volker's call on WG5.5, if he's happy, then there is probably
little point in raising objections.
(And if he has objections, he can overrule mine!)
In case Volker is unable to respond by your deadline, is it possible to
propose that points 2, 3 and 4 of the WG5.5 Scope include some reference to
"collaboration with TC6"? (Point 4 clearly has security implications too but
that's not our problem.)
Similarly, point 2 of the draft Scope for TC-EC is relevant to TC6, so the
question above applies here too.
Some of it is mobile network related but I presume this point would also
cover the technology for networked games, so it might have interactions with
other working groups.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Augusto Casaca [mailto:augusto.casaca@inesc.pt]
Sent: 09 July 2002 14:40
To: TC6
Subject: [ifip-tc6] WG 5.5
Dear TC6 members,
Last week I sent you a proposal for the establishment of a new WG 5.5 on
Virtual Enterprises. Up to now I have not received any comment on it. Does
this mean that all of you agree with the aims and scope of this WG? If I do
not receive any comments until this Friday I will assume so.
Best regards
Augusto
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I was worried that publishers who might want to sell single papers
electronically would be unhappy if authors could also put the papers on
their individual web sites. If we've established the precedent regarding the
web sites, let's keep it.
Regards
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: leduc(a)montefiore.ulg.ac.be [mailto:leduc@montefiore.ulg.ac.be]
Sent: 11 July 2002 09:20
To: Arun Iyengar
Cc: TC6
Subject: RE: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
I agree with Arun.
Guy
A (At) 13:54 10/07/02, Arun Iyengar ecrivait (wrote):
>Peter:
>
>There are advantages to having a copy of proceedings even if some papers
>are posted on individual authors' Web sites. If I want to see all of the
>papers for a good conference, it is not going to do me much good to try to
>find the subset of authors who have posted their papers on their personal
>Web sites and try to locate their Web sites to obtain the papers. This
>would be very time consuming, and I am only likely to obtain a subset of
>the papers. I would much rather obtain the proceedings for the conference.
>
>What is important is to attract the highest quality submissions. Authors
>want to put their papers on their Web sites. The key thing to getting the
>best proceedings and making IFIP as successful as possible is to get
>authors to want to publish their papers in IFIP proceedings. If we go with
>a publisher who doesn't allow authors to publish papers on their Web sites,
>this would be a deterrent for authors to publish their best work in IFIP
>conferences. This may have more of a negative impact on revenues than lost
>book sales due to some papers being available on the Web. The world is
>moving to a model where the Web is one of the primary means of information
>dissemination. Any publisher who doesn't allow this is behind the times.
>
>I also don't think that it should be that difficult to negotiate this
>point. Other major publishers (e.g. ACM Press, IEEE Press, Kluwer) allow
>authors to put copies of their papers on their Web sites. It was a major
>improvement when Kluwer started allowing this, and now that we have it in
>our contracts with Kluwer, it isn't something we should give up in the
>future. That would be taking a step backward.
>
>Arun
>
>"Radford, Peter" <RadfordP(a)logica.com>@Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE on 07/10/2002
>03:56:14 AM
>
>Sent by: ifip-tc6-admin(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE
>
>
>To: TC6 <ifip-tc6(a)informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
>cc:
>Subject: RE: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
>
>
>
>Augusto, et al
>
>I've comments on just two points:
>
>7. This ought to make clear (if that is the intention) that TC6 expects the
>publisher to provide the CDs and at some reasonable price. (I'll explore
>later today what people here would charge.)
>
>8. If a paper is available on the author's web site (or authors' web
>sites),
>why should anyone pay for it from the publisher (see point 2)? How about
>demanding that authors be allowed to put the free information (see point 3)
>on their public web-sites but also be allowed to distribute electronic
>copies, if they wish? That way we don't totally undermine the financial
>benefit to the electronic publishers (which ultimately means money for TC6)
>but we do allow the authors to show what they've done to the world and (if
>they are willing to go to the trouble of sending out electronic copies) to
>let individuals see the full works.
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Augusto Casaca [mailto:augusto.casaca@inesc.pt]
>Sent: 09 July 2002 14:35
>To: TC6
>Subject: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>Sometime ago I circulated a document from TC5 with a proposal for the IFIP
>publication policy. I received comments from Arun Iyengar, Guy Leduc, Harry
>Rudin and Lyman Chapin. I tried to put together some of these comments and
>my own ideas in a short document that I attach to this mail. Please let me
>know whether I can distribute this document within IFIP as a TC6 view or if
>I should change it.
>
>Please let me have your comments until this coming Friday. I wish to send
>it
>to IFIP on that evening.
>
>Best regards
>
>Augusto
________________________________________________________________________
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Universite de Liege Secr : +32 4 366 26 91
Reseaux Informatiques Fax : +32 4 366 29 89
Research Unit in Networking (RUN) Guy.Leduc(a)ulg.ac.be
Institut d'Electricite Montefiore, B 28, B-4000 LIEGE 1, BELGIUM
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From: owner-ifip_ga(a)ifip.or.at [mailto:owner-ifip_ga@ifip.or.at]On
Behalf Of Plamen Nedkov
Sent: quinta-feira, 11 de Julho de 2002 09:28
To: GA&MS
Subject: [IFIP] Special limited WCC discount - 30% off!
Importance: High
To: IFIP Member Society representatives - Full, Corresponding and Affiliate
cc. IFIP Member Societies
Subject:: Special promotion discount for IFIP Congress 2002
Dear All
Earlier this week the OC Chair and I carried out a brief review of the
status of Congress registrations coming from IFIP member society countries.
On 3 July registrations from IFIP Member countries were as follows:
Armenia - 1, Australia - 10, Austria - 7
Belgium - 4, Brazil - 5, Bulgaria -1
Canada -56, Chile - 1, China - 6
Denmark -2
Egypt -2
Finland - 19, France -17
Germany - 37
Hungary - 4
Iceland -1, India - 2, Israel - 3, Italy - 5
Japan - 8
Lithuania - 1
Netherlands - 9, Norway - 3
Poland - 4, Portugal - 4
Slovenia - 2, South Africa - 6, South Korea -1, Spain -4, Sweden -6,
Switzerland - 6
UK - 12, USA - 52
From these figures you will note that several countries are very well
represented but many are below their potential attendance.
In view of the situation and in order to stimulate further registrations
the Congress Organizing Committee has agreed to carry out a special one
time promotion. All persons who register from today until Friday, 26 July
2002, will receive a 30% discount on the normal rate and will need to pay
only CAD 700.
Eligible for this offer are members of IFIP member societies - Full,
Corresponding, Affiliate - who are active in the respective society's
working groups, technical committees, management boards, etc. In order to
benefit from this scheme, when they register they should indicate "Special
IFIP promotion rate" and indicate the society of which they are members.
This one-time offer is intended to stimulate further Congress registrations
and at the same time to recognize and reward the active membership of our
Member societies. We would be grateful if our GA representatives and member
societies publicize this within their committees and boards.
A complete list of IFIP member societies is available at
http://www.ifip.or.at/bulletin/b_GA.htm
For further information please visit http://www.wcc2002.org/ or contact
directly
Mr. George Boynton, Chairman, Congress 2002 Organizing Committee
E-mails: george(a)cips.ca, contact-wcc2002(a)cips.ca
Best regards,
Plamen
--------------------------------
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Executive Director, IFIP
Hofstrasse 3, A-2361 Laxenburg, Austria
Tel: +43 2236 73616 Fax: +43 2236 736169
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I agree with Arun.
Guy
A (At) 13:54 10/07/02, Arun Iyengar ecrivait (wrote):
>Peter:
>
>There are advantages to having a copy of proceedings even if some papers
>are posted on individual authors' Web sites. If I want to see all of the
>papers for a good conference, it is not going to do me much good to try to
>find the subset of authors who have posted their papers on their personal
>Web sites and try to locate their Web sites to obtain the papers. This
>would be very time consuming, and I am only likely to obtain a subset of
>the papers. I would much rather obtain the proceedings for the conference.
>
>What is important is to attract the highest quality submissions. Authors
>want to put their papers on their Web sites. The key thing to getting the
>best proceedings and making IFIP as successful as possible is to get
>authors to want to publish their papers in IFIP proceedings. If we go with
>a publisher who doesn't allow authors to publish papers on their Web sites,
>this would be a deterrent for authors to publish their best work in IFIP
>conferences. This may have more of a negative impact on revenues than lost
>book sales due to some papers being available on the Web. The world is
>moving to a model where the Web is one of the primary means of information
>dissemination. Any publisher who doesn't allow this is behind the times.
>
>I also don't think that it should be that difficult to negotiate this
>point. Other major publishers (e.g. ACM Press, IEEE Press, Kluwer) allow
>authors to put copies of their papers on their Web sites. It was a major
>improvement when Kluwer started allowing this, and now that we have it in
>our contracts with Kluwer, it isn't something we should give up in the
>future. That would be taking a step backward.
>
>Arun
>
>"Radford, Peter" <RadfordP(a)logica.com>@Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE on 07/10/2002
>03:56:14 AM
>
>Sent by: ifip-tc6-admin(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE
>
>
>To: TC6 <ifip-tc6(a)informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
>cc:
>Subject: RE: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
>
>
>
>Augusto, et al
>
>I've comments on just two points:
>
>7. This ought to make clear (if that is the intention) that TC6 expects the
>publisher to provide the CDs and at some reasonable price. (I'll explore
>later today what people here would charge.)
>
>8. If a paper is available on the author's web site (or authors' web
>sites),
>why should anyone pay for it from the publisher (see point 2)? How about
>demanding that authors be allowed to put the free information (see point 3)
>on their public web-sites but also be allowed to distribute electronic
>copies, if they wish? That way we don't totally undermine the financial
>benefit to the electronic publishers (which ultimately means money for TC6)
>but we do allow the authors to show what they've done to the world and (if
>they are willing to go to the trouble of sending out electronic copies) to
>let individuals see the full works.
>
>Peter
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Augusto Casaca [mailto:augusto.casaca@inesc.pt]
>Sent: 09 July 2002 14:35
>To: TC6
>Subject: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>Sometime ago I circulated a document from TC5 with a proposal for the IFIP
>publication policy. I received comments from Arun Iyengar, Guy Leduc, Harry
>Rudin and Lyman Chapin. I tried to put together some of these comments and
>my own ideas in a short document that I attach to this mail. Please let me
>know whether I can distribute this document within IFIP as a TC6 view or if
>I should change it.
>
>Please let me have your comments until this coming Friday. I wish to send
>it
>to IFIP on that evening.
>
>Best regards
>
>Augusto
________________________________________________________________________
Prof. Guy Leduc Tel : +32 4 366 26 98
Universite de Liege Secr : +32 4 366 26 91
Reseaux Informatiques Fax : +32 4 366 29 89
Research Unit in Networking (RUN) Guy.Leduc(a)ulg.ac.be
Institut d'Electricite Montefiore, B 28, B-4000 LIEGE 1, BELGIUM
http://www.run.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/People/GuyLeduc/
Peter:
There are advantages to having a copy of proceedings even if some papers
are posted on individual authors' Web sites. If I want to see all of the
papers for a good conference, it is not going to do me much good to try to
find the subset of authors who have posted their papers on their personal
Web sites and try to locate their Web sites to obtain the papers. This
would be very time consuming, and I am only likely to obtain a subset of
the papers. I would much rather obtain the proceedings for the conference.
What is important is to attract the highest quality submissions. Authors
want to put their papers on their Web sites. The key thing to getting the
best proceedings and making IFIP as successful as possible is to get
authors to want to publish their papers in IFIP proceedings. If we go with
a publisher who doesn't allow authors to publish papers on their Web sites,
this would be a deterrent for authors to publish their best work in IFIP
conferences. This may have more of a negative impact on revenues than lost
book sales due to some papers being available on the Web. The world is
moving to a model where the Web is one of the primary means of information
dissemination. Any publisher who doesn't allow this is behind the times.
I also don't think that it should be that difficult to negotiate this
point. Other major publishers (e.g. ACM Press, IEEE Press, Kluwer) allow
authors to put copies of their papers on their Web sites. It was a major
improvement when Kluwer started allowing this, and now that we have it in
our contracts with Kluwer, it isn't something we should give up in the
future. That would be taking a step backward.
Arun
"Radford, Peter" <RadfordP(a)logica.com>@Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE on 07/10/2002
03:56:14 AM
Sent by: ifip-tc6-admin(a)Lists.RWTH-Aachen.DE
To: TC6 <ifip-tc6(a)informatik.rwth-aachen.de>
cc:
Subject: RE: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
Augusto, et al
I've comments on just two points:
7. This ought to make clear (if that is the intention) that TC6 expects the
publisher to provide the CDs and at some reasonable price. (I'll explore
later today what people here would charge.)
8. If a paper is available on the author's web site (or authors' web
sites),
why should anyone pay for it from the publisher (see point 2)? How about
demanding that authors be allowed to put the free information (see point 3)
on their public web-sites but also be allowed to distribute electronic
copies, if they wish? That way we don't totally undermine the financial
benefit to the electronic publishers (which ultimately means money for TC6)
but we do allow the authors to show what they've done to the world and (if
they are willing to go to the trouble of sending out electronic copies) to
let individuals see the full works.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Augusto Casaca [mailto:augusto.casaca@inesc.pt]
Sent: 09 July 2002 14:35
To: TC6
Subject: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
Dear all,
Sometime ago I circulated a document from TC5 with a proposal for the IFIP
publication policy. I received comments from Arun Iyengar, Guy Leduc, Harry
Rudin and Lyman Chapin. I tried to put together some of these comments and
my own ideas in a short document that I attach to this mail. Please let me
know whether I can distribute this document within IFIP as a TC6 view or if
I should change it.
Please let me have your comments until this coming Friday. I wish to send
it
to IFIP on that evening.
Best regards
Augusto
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Dear TC6 delegates,
I now have published the new Web-design at the
TC6 server http://www.ifip.tugraz.at/TC6/
( or http://www.ifip.tu-graz.ac.at/TC6/ )
New passwords for the protected delegates section
will be mailed to you soon.
What I'm still missing are a few of the short descriptions
of the conference series. (see the navigation bar
at the top of http://www.ifip.tugraz.at/TC6/events/ )
The descriptions I do not yet have are:
WG6.2: pfHSN, Net_Arch, Net_Con, Net_Traffic,
Internetwork, Networking
WG6.6: IM, DSOM, NOMS, MMNS, IWAN (?)
WG6.7: IWAN, Smartnet
WG6.9: LANC, Africom
WG6.10: ONDM
WG6.11: I3E, elpub
These are the sites the domian names xxx.IFIP.ORG shall
be directed to. I've put the pages 'on construction'.
A minor thing still to be done is to get the WG report
form working. This will bedone soon
Best regards,
Herbert
Herbert Leitold
IAIK, Graz University of Technology
Inffeldgasse 16a, A-8010 Graz, Austria
tel +43 316 873 5521 fax +43 316 873 5520
Herbert.Leitold(a)iaik.at http://www.iaik.at
I've amended my earlier comment on point 7
-----Original Message-----
From: Radford, Peter
Sent: 10 July 2002 08:56
To: TC6
Subject: RE: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
Augusto, et al
I've comments on just two points:
7. This ought to make clear (if that is the intention) that TC6 expects the
publisher to provide the CDs and at some reasonable price (say, less than 5
Euros).
I talked to three companies offering CD-ROM replication services today and,
despite all the variables (such as number of copies, what sort of printing
on the CD and what sort of packaging) got a reasonably consistent response
of about 3 Euros/CD. That sounds a lot in comparison with the price of a raw
CD but there is a non-trivial amount of work involved. (Incidentally two
companies said there was a breakpoint at 500 copies in terms of whether they
simply copied the CD or made a physical master and pressed the CDs.)
8. If a paper is available on the author's web site (or authors' web sites),
why should anyone pay for it from the publisher (see point 2)? How about
demanding that authors be allowed to put the free information (see point 3)
on their public web-sites but also be allowed to distribute electronic
copies, if they wish? That way we don't totally undermine the financial
benefit to the electronic publishers (which ultimately means money for TC6)
but we do allow the authors to show what they've done to the world and (if
they are willing to go to the trouble of sending out electronic copies) to
let individuals see the full works.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Augusto Casaca [mailto:augusto.casaca@inesc.pt]
Sent: 09 July 2002 14:35
To: TC6
Subject: [ifip-tc6] IFIP Publication Policy
Dear all,
Sometime ago I circulated a document from TC5 with a proposal for the IFIP
publication policy. I received comments from Arun Iyengar, Guy Leduc, Harry
Rudin and Lyman Chapin. I tried to put together some of these comments and
my own ideas in a short document that I attach to this mail. Please let me
know whether I can distribute this document within IFIP as a TC6 view or if
I should change it.
Please let me have your comments until this coming Friday. I wish to send it
to IFIP on that evening.
Best regards
Augusto
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Dear TC6 members,
Any comments on this proposal?
Best regards
Augusto
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Subject: proposal on a new TC in IFIP
Dear TC chairs
My name is Tak Kamae, the chair of Entertainment Computing Task Force
(ECTF). Attached documents are the outcome of discussions made at extended
ECTF meeting held at the site of International Workshop on Entertainment
Computing. The conclusions of the meeting were the following two:
1) ECTF should make a formal proposal on a new TC on Entertaiment Computing
in Montreal.
2) Before the formal proposal we should make best efforts to avoid the
overlap of its activities with existing TCs and to adjust its aims and scope
with relevant TC/WG chairs.
The attached draft proposal was written by me (Tak Kamae) on the basis of
the discussions made at the meeting. The meeting minutes are attached as
Annex 3. I will appreciate it very much if you read through them and send me
the opinions of your TC. Please feel free to send the documnts to relevant
WG chairs and get their opinions.
I would like to draw particular attention of the following TCs:
TC-3 (refer to 4.1), TC-5 (refer to 4.2), TC-9 (refer to 4.3), TC-12 (refer
to 4.4) and TC-13 (refer to 4.5)
Upon receit of your comments and opinions I would like to write a final
version of the proposal.
Regards
Tak Kamae
Chair, Entertainment Computing Task Force, IFIP
