Posts to one of my lists that are larger than 4.5K are being duplicated. The archive only has a single entry. The message headers are the same for both messages (except for the outgoing ID and date stamps). And as near as I can tell, it does not happen to everyone on the list. Just to confirm it, I subed a free yahoo account and it received the duplicates. My sendmail logs show both messages being delivered. Any idea? -- Doug
At 4:48 PM -0500 10/30/01, Doug Mansfield is rumored to have typed:
Just to confirm it, I subed a free yahoo account and it received the duplicates. My sendmail logs show both messages being delivered.
Any idea?
Have you set up a test list to see if you could duplicate the problem without driving the subscribers out of their minds? I don't know of _anything_ in SmartList that would differenciate based on the size of a message (other than the size limit setting), and would _really_ be interested to know if there's anything within SmartList that would cause a message to be resent twice. Are you _certain_ this isn't simply an issue of getting two copies _inbound?_ Especially since you noted it didn't happen to all messages over 4.5k, it might be a couple of...er...users who are a little confused and sending the same message out twice (you said the header fields were the same, but I'm betting the Message-ID: header field is different, which would indicate the user sent two copies). Your logs should show it, but you could try adding this simple recipe to the top of rc.local.s00: :0 c /path/to/list/dir/tempfile ...which will keep a copy of anything inbound in the tempfile file. (I have a couple of users who _routinely_ send multiple copies of each posting a few seconds apart.) Charlie
At 4:48 PM -0500 10/30/01, Doug Mansfield is rumored to have typed:
Just to confirm it, I subed a free yahoo account and it received the duplicates. My sendmail logs show both messages being delivered.
Any idea?
Have you set up a test list to see if you could duplicate the problem without driving the subscribers out of their minds? I don't know of _anything_ in SmartList that would differenciate based on the size of a message (other than the size limit setting), and would _really_ be interested to know if there's anything within SmartList that would cause a message to be resent twice.
Are you _certain_ this isn't simply an issue of getting two copies _inbound?_ Especially since you noted it didn't happen to all messages over 4.5k, it might be a couple of...er...users who are a little confused and sending the same message out twice (you said the header fields were
but I'm betting the Message-ID: header field is different, which would indicate the user sent two copies). Your logs should show it, but you could try adding this simple recipe to the top of rc.local.s00:
:0 c /path/to/list/dir/tempfile
...which will keep a copy of anything inbound in the tempfile file. (I have a couple of users who _routinely_ send multiple copies of each
Doug, Do both messages have the same header info? I sometimes get two copies of the same message, one the sender is set to [listname], the other the senders name, with reply-to as [listname].... I don't know why it does that, but it is annoying. I know it's not a multiple posting as it's happened when I was the sender. ATB, Les Charlie Summers wrote: the same, posting a
few seconds apart.)
Charlie
--On Tuesday, October 30, 2001 5:39 PM -0500 Charlie Summers <charlie@lofcom.com> wrote:
At 4:48 PM -0500 10/30/01, Doug Mansfield is rumored to have typed:
Just to confirm it, I subed a free yahoo account and it received the duplicates. My sendmail logs show both messages being delivered.
Any idea?
Have you set up a test list to see if you could duplicate the problem without driving the subscribers out of their minds? I don't know of _anything_ in SmartList that would differenciate based on the size of a message (other than the size limit setting), and would _really_ be interested to know if there's anything within SmartList that would cause a message to be resent twice.
Are you _certain_ this isn't simply an issue of getting two copies _inbound?_ Especially since you noted it didn't happen to all messages over 4.5k, it might be a couple of...er...users who are a little confused and sending the same message out twice (you said the header fields were the same, but I'm betting the Message-ID: header field is different, which would indicate the user sent two copies). Your logs should show it, but you could try adding this simple recipe to the top of rc.local.s00:
: 0 c /path/to/list/dir/tempfile
...which will keep a copy of anything inbound in the tempfile file. (I have a couple of users who _routinely_ send multiple copies of each posting a few seconds apart.)
I already have it set up to keep a copy of the latest 200 messages (from rc.local.s00) before any processing is done. Each time it has happened, I can only find one copy of the original message in both the temp backup and the archive. The sendmail logs only show a single inbound message. The duplicated outbound messages refer to the same message id from the inbound message. This only occurs when the message is larger than 4.5 KB and apparently does not happen to everyone, but it does happen for every message of that size. The sendmail logs show the call being made from choplist? with repeated addresses. I am stumpted. At this point, I do not even know where to look or what to test. It does not occur with my test list, but I only have two addresses in the dist file, my local and the free yahoo address. Thanks, -- Doug
At 9:22 AM -0500 10/31/01, Doug Mansfield is rumored to have typed:
I can only find one copy of the original message in both the temp backup and the archive.
Wow...darned if I could come up with a simple explination. About the only thing I can think to do is clear some drive space and set VERBOSE logging, and then wait until a message over 4.5k shows up. Since you can be pretty sure that only one message is coming in, and two are going out, it has to be something that SmartLIst is doing somewhere.
It does not occur with my test list, but I only have two addresses in the dist file, my local and the free yahoo address.
Do you have your test list set up EXACTLY like the problem production list, rc.local.xxx files included? It seems to me the number of addresses in the dist file would have less to do with it than the setup before the mail is sent (but I've been _really_ wrong before). Charlie
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