At 3:14 PM -0400 7/28/00, Roger Burton West is rumored to have typed:
Because people these days have horribly incomptently written MUAs which try to hide this sort of nasty technical thing from them. (Heavy irony.)
Sorry, broken-record time. (Boy, did that date me or what?) Am I the _only_ person who read the .example files, and so know that the X-Command line may be placed in the body if one incorporates the recipe in .examples/rc.local.r00? This eliminates _all_ discussion about mail clients, since it will work perfectly with _any_ client.
Yes; the thing is, I don't think it would be _optional_ any more.
I agree completely here; actually, I'd argue that everyone should have the right _not_ to use confirmation, but then shouldn't complain when their server ends up on the RBL or ORBS lists. ;)
I agree entirely! On the other hand, I want to see the spammers that are Topica and Egroups go out of business.
Again off-topic, this is an opportunity for a _serious_ business plan to lease advert-free lists to consumers and businesses; but again, I wouldn't use SmartList for a bunch of large lists, I'd instead use a large commercial package (which more expensive at outlay, is less expensive in admin time for a gigantic number of mega-subscriber mailing lists and already has the "newbie" admin routines).
Because if SL doesn't have the checkboxes, people will go instead to egroups and get bombarded with spam
...much as I _hate_ these services, I have to tell you that although I am subscribed to lists on both services under nom de plumes, I haven't received spam from them to those addresses (other than the annoying advertisements in all of the mail that comes through them), noting that I have never posted to the lists and only monitor them. This is not to be construed as a positive comment; I still dislike them as much as you do.
or majordomo and have their systems flushed by crackers
He, he...you don't need crackers if you have really large lists, with all those perl processes running when the bounces come rolling in. (That said, procbounce can get kinda ugly, too, when outfits like AOL hold bounces for a bunch of mailing lists and shove them all at the server at the same time...)
or mailman and _only_ be able to do useful stuff via the web interface. (Such, at least, is my experience of mailman lists.)
From the user end, you can do pretty much everything the web interface can by sending the proper commands to the server via email. I dunno about the admin section, since I've never bothered installing mailman.
I want to see things done _right_. If that means adding a few bits of candy on top of the pill to make it more palatable, so be it - you can always take them off again if you're able to face the real thing.
Point taken. Charlie