You know: I just think it's so much a shame when smart and otherwise interesting people get in stupid arguments on email lists. The shame is not that smart people come off like total idiots in flame fests, but that those who could have been helped to use smartlist go away unhelped. The flame to information and signal to noise ratios here are really wacked, and I'd encourage those persons who are intent on being merely uncivil or proving how much more they know than do others to move their great quest for superiority and incivility to alt.flame or something. You may be really an amazing admin with years of experience around mail, but you aren't showing what an amazing human you are when you flame those persons who ask stupid questions. You, too, were stupid once. You did not know what m/^$/ represented when you left the womb. Please pardon my soliloquy(sp) here, but I can't help but note how odd it is that people coming here for help leave here much crisper and with more carbon than when they started. I just think it's too bad. Respectfully and Humbly, Dan Kappus