At 12:50 PM -0400 10/25/00, ZENIT News Agency is rumored to have typed:
Remember that we're in the Microsoft era. I just checked -- Netscape 4.0+ will filter on body, but not arbitrary headers
Er...I just checked Communicator 4.5/Mac (note I do _not_ use this for email, and don't even have email preferences set), and in the "Message Filters" window when creating or editing a filter, when selecting from the first popup (defaults to "subject") the last entry is "Customize..." which brings up a "Customize" window allowing you to enter _any_ header field name you'd like; I easily added "X-Mailing-List" in this window, and then set a filter named "My Dummy Filter" in which any message where "X-Mailing-List" header (added to pop-up after customizing) contains "mylist-l@foo.bar" will be moved to the "Trash" folder. Obviously, a real filter, transfering to a "mylist" folder, could as easily be added. <snip>
Outlook and its derivatives are similar.
You're telling me that a modern Microsoft application cannot perform the functions of a 1997 application from another company? Explain to me again slowly why anyone uses it?
the problem being solved by the recipe is a real one.
I disagree; the problem appears to be within this one application, not the mailing list. There is no valid reason for using damaged software. (I have to tell you, I am somewhat in shock that even a company as inattentive to its customers' needs as Microsoft cannot do something as mind-numbingly simple as this. Are you _certain_ it cannot filter on X-* headers? As you might have noticed, I do _not_ use MS Internet applications...apparently for darned good reasons! But I simply cannot believe that it isn't possible to do something this simple. In a standard SmartList-sent message, there's X-Mailing-List:, X-Loop:, Resent-Sender:, Return-Path:...good grief, any _number_ of fields which contain unique information on which to filter. You are really telling me that OE is so damaged it can't handle _any_ of them? Good grief, even discontinued applications like Claris Emailer could handle something as obvious as this!) Naturally, the digested mailing lists on my server contain the list name in the subject (heck, it _is_ the subject ;). The interactive lists simply will not. Like I said, anyone _else_ is welcomed to screw with their list posting's Subject: header fields all they want, but I have no intention of pandering to the lowest common denominator. If you post to my lists, you can be assured that you will not have some ham-handed administrator altering the sections over which you have control. Charlie