This is meant as an observation, and not fuel to start a flame war. My access to the use of smartlist is through the company hosting one of my domains. They have a version of smartlist available for use by the domains they host, however don't allow telnet access, and rely on other (usually outdated or extinct) site's FAQs for information and support. My domain file access is through ftp, and to my knowledge, there is no way to access "." files through it. If you can't access .etc there is no way to read the manual, therefore, people may need to rely on reading one of the web accessible manuals on the server of someone else. One of the most frustrating things I have noticed in this, is the fact that these manuals are geared for the version their server carries, and could very well be the earliest versions released, if it suits their purpose. Maybe it is just my system configuration, but every time I attempt to download the manual from the address: ftp://ftp.pure.ch/pub/smartlist/SmartList-Manual, as noted in the FAQ, I get a "File Not Found" error. I have all the different FAQs noted, however, haven't been able to find a manual for SmartList dated later than 1993. Was that when development stopped? Is there a URL where the manual noted above can be read online or possibly downloaded as webpages for those who are unable to ftp download it? I started on the 'net when it was strictly for scientific or research purposes, and only available to major universities, governmental entities, or worldwide scientific organizations, years before Kermit was developed as a "cutting-edge" technological breakthrough. Times have changed, and I would hazard a guess that there are some on this list who have never heard of Kermit, let alone used it. There is a whole new generation of SmartList users out there who don't own the server they are using, or have full access to all the files ProcMail/SmartList uses. It is these users that will make or break whether SmartList is used by providers who could offer feedback, or if the maintenance and development of it becomes a part-time hobby for a few select individuals. Maybe what's needed is a "GUI" so to speak for new users, that would allow those with limited access/knowledge to learn, and go deeper as things make more sense. Anybody still using CPM as an operating system? Anybody considered a "Newbie" list where the same topics could be discussed ad-nauseam without disturbing the "Pros"? Just a thought. Roy