Charlie Summers wrote, S> Not being a self-proclamed expert, and only an old programmer with S> asperations of guru-hood, though, I wouldn't know. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Interesting typo, Mr. Summers. Most aspirations do come with asperities. Jelmer Jellema posted, J> Thought I'd share this with you before unsubscribing, sorry about this.... J> Will unsubscribe now. Jellema's "this" was an excerpt from private mail written by Charlie Summers, surely posted without the author's consent. Quoting private email into a public forum without the writer's permission is generally viewed as illegal in all countries signatory to the Berne Convention and universally regarded as rude. If Jellema had not unsubscribed from this list, that act should be grounds for removal.