At 4:14 AM -0400 10/26/00, ZENIT News Agency is rumored to have typed:
You're correct. In the WIN32 versions, there's an "Advanced" button (which is not in the most intuitive spot, but is there).
Hey, at least you have a button. That "Customize..." entry on the pop-up menu sure wouldn't be stumbled over by someone not specifically looking for it...
Well, when you buy a computer, install any piece of Microsoft software (even if utterly unrelated to the Internet), or touch the C key (exaggeration), these programs get installed in your computer and then try to harass you into "selecting" them as the defaults...
Yeah...I was going to mention that at least Macs were safe from that nonsense, but the painful truth is that nowadays IE and OE are the defaults on _those_ machines as well. (At least my Mac clients don't have to put up with that crap, since I'm careful to install no MS products whatsoever.)
I can't find the function in Outlook Express.
Please understand that I am _not_ doubting your word, I'm only in a state of shock that MS would be this brain-damaged; I realize it sounds like I think you missed something, but I really don't. (I know, I shouldn't be surprised, but I just can't get over it. How stupid _are_ the people in Redmond?)
Actually, Microsoft is very "anti-header" in general.
Microsoft is simply anti-STANDARD, but then we all know that, too.
Maybe people are actually smartening up and leaving the M$ clients behind (or only smart people write to me :-) )
I am proud and humbled to be considered such. ;)
If you're running a high-level discussion, perhaps you can make demands of your users to be able to subscribe (which client to use etc.). Others who are trying to build a discussion, might have to "pander" to the lowest common denominator in order to build up a community.
Maybe. On the other hand, I can't help but wonder what type of community they are trying to _build._ Sometimes when I am berated by someone for causing a problem that is actually on their end and would be obvious if they stopped yelling and listened to my explinations, I consider the person threatening to leave a liability on the list, and hope feverantly that they do indeed take a hike. Do we really _want_ people who don't know how to Reply-To-All (as an example only) on our mailing lists, or how to reply to a message without quoting an entire 30k digest? Are we so concerned about numbers that we'll take the lamest people possible only to build our subscriber base? Not me, kids...I'm looking for quality, not quantity. If people don't like the way I run my lists, they're welcomed to go to Topica or eGroups and start their own. (On my "main" list, some have tried...and succeeded in reaching a subscriber base of less than 10% of my list, mostly people subscribed to both with a few malcontents who were banned, were removed, or who left mine, and messages that are filled with complete-digest quotations, 20-line signatures, and other unplesant things I automatically and manually forbid.) I realize there's no entrance exam for accessing the Internet, but sometimes I sure wish there were - it would solve a whole lot of problems like this. Thanks, but I'll stick to being a hard-*ss...no successful mailing list can be run by a democracy, it _has_ to be a dictatorship. (No committee ever accomplished _anything_ on purpose, although I've seen a precious few stumble into successes acidentally...) Charlie