October 2000 - Smartlist - lists.rwth-aachen.de

no copy to myself?
by Frans Gouverne 05 Oct '00

05 Oct '00

When I send a message to a maillist, I receive a copy of my own message, because I am listed in the dist-list as well. Is it possible to suppress this behaviour? So I will not receive a copy of my own message? Frans Gouverne.

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No bounce-detection
by Jelmer Jellema 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

Hi, I hope this list is still active. I have the following problem: I'm using smartlist through the "control panel" of my webprovider, so with some clicks, all was installed. After that, I changed a lot to get it working the way I wanted it. Everything works fine except for bounce-detection. When I put some non-existing mail-adress in the dist list and send some mails through the list, there is no sign of any bounce detection whatsoever. There is not even a "bounces" directory. I am doing something wrong, expecting something that is not there, or am I looking at the wrong place or something? Thanks allready, Regards, Jelmer ----------------------------------------------------------- Drs. Jelmer Jellema - Spin in het Web www.spininhetweb.com Spin in het Web geeft internet inhoud ------------------------------------------------------------- Spin in het Web is de producent van: www.visinhetnet.nl: Grote Partij Kinderpostzegels Onderschept www.irritantman.nl: Irritant Man! - Reden tot Klagen

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FW: Question about Smartlist
by O'Rourke, Tom 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

Dear Smartlist subscribers, > I retrieved your name/e-mail address from the SmartList FAQ web page with > the hope you can provide an answer or direction to a problem I'm having. > I've read the FAQ's and the SmartList manual regarding the insertion of a > header/footer into an e-mail. I've followed the appropriate steps but it > doesn't work completely.When I send an e-mail from Microsoft Outlook to my > list the body contains only the message not the header and footer to the > addresses that use Exchange. However, when the e-mail is delivered to the > UNIX machines both the header and footer are present. > > I edited the rc.custom file and uncommented the > RC_LOCAL_SUBMIT_20=rc.local.s20 line. > I created the rc.local.s20 file and included the appropriate lines: > :0 fhw > | cat - header.txt > > :0fbw > | cat - footer.txt > I created the header.txt footer.txt file with the appropriate lines. > > It does work but only for accounts on the UNIX (hpux 10.20) machines. > Currently running version 3.10 of smartlist. > > Here is the output of the mail using elm: > <<email.txt>> > > Thanks, > Tom O'Rourke > >

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Re: X-Commands (was Smartlist Expert????)
by Gary Funck 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

> I've set it (correctly I think) on our server, to collect > email addresses for a company newsletter. I've downloaded > the manual and read it over and over, but when I send > X-Commands and try to distribute a newsletter, absolutely > nothing happens. > > I've spent hours trying to figure out what it is I'm doing > wrong [...] One thing to check for: The X-Command has to be in the _header_ of e-mail message sent to list-request(a)domain.com. Some mail clients won't let you add your own custom header lines, or they make it difficult. I modified the way X-Command works, to support list admin commands in the _body_ of the message. The logic checks to see if the from address matches the list maintainer address, and if it does, it allows the list commands. I didn't add a password check, but that would have been straightforward as well. The list maintainer check can be easily generalized to allow more than one maintainer. The mod is in rc.request, just ahead of the recipe that already handles X-Command. Here's the logic: # # Or is it a special remote "admin" command from the maintainer? # :0 H wf:dist.lock * $^From:.*$maintainer * ^Subject:.*admin * $!^X-Loop: $listaddr * $!^X-Loop-Admin: $listaddr | do_admin which is inserted just ahead of this part of the recipe: # # Or is it a remote X-Command from our maintainer? # :0 H wf:dist.lock * $^$X_COMMAND:.*$maintainer[ ]*$X_COMMAND_PASSWORD * $!^X-Loop: $listaddr | x_command The extra logic looking for X-Loop-Admin checks for the cases where mail to the maintainer is looping. This can happen sometimes, and when it does, bad things happen. The "do_admin" script is in in the .bin directory, and is a slight variation on "x_command": #! /bin/sh : echo=echo # /bin/echo test=test # /bin/test cat=cat # /bin/cat rm=rm # /bin/rm formail=formail # /usr/local/bin/formail subscribe=subscribe # ../.bin/subscribe unsubscribe=unsubscribe # ../.bin/unsubscribe multigram=multigram # ../.bin/multigram tmprequest=tmp.request tmpfrom=tmp.from dist=dist log=log $test -z "$listaddr" && $echo "Don't start this script directly, it is used in rc.request" && exit 64 X_ENVELOPE_TO=$list-request # to convince (un)subscribe we used the right export X_ENVELOPE_TO # address $cat >$tmprequest $formail -a X-Processed: <$tmprequest set dummy `egrep '^(subscribe|unsubscribe|checkdist|showdist|showlog|help|info|wipelog|version)' < $tmprequest` shift while $test $# != 0 do case "_$1" in _subscribe|_unsubscribe|_checkdist) if $test $# = 1 then $echo "X-Diagnostic: Missing argument for $1" set help fi;; esac case "_$1" in _subscribe) $echo "From $2 " >$tmprequest $echo "From: request ($listreq)" >>$tmprequest $echo "Reply-To: $2" >>$tmprequest $echo "To: $listreq" >>$tmprequest $echo "Subject: subscribe $2" >>$tmprequest $echo "$2" >$tmpfrom $test -z "$subscribe_log" || $echo "x_command: subscribe" >>$subscribe_log $subscribe <$tmprequest || $echo "X-Diagnostic: Unscreened, not subscribed" shift ;; _unsubscribe) $echo "From $2 " >$tmprequest $echo "From: $listreq" >>$tmprequest $echo "Reply-To: $2" >>$tmprequest $echo "To: $listreq" >>$tmprequest $echo "Subject: unsubscribe $2" >>$tmprequest $echo "$maintainer" "$2" >$tmpfrom $test -z "$subscribe_log" || $echo "x_command: unsubscribe" >>$subscribe_log $unsubscribe <$tmprequest | $SENDMAIL $sendmailOPT `cat $tmpfrom` shift ;; _checkdist) $echo "Multigram checking the dist file for matches with" $echo "$2:" $echo "" $echo "From $2" | $multigram -b8 -l-32767 dist $echo "" shift ;; _showdist) $echo "--- Current subscribers:" $cat $dist $echo "--- End of subscriber list" ;; _showlog) $echo "--- Current log:" $cat $log $echo "--- End of log" ;; _wipelog) $cat /dev/null >$log ;; _version) flist -v 2>&1 echo "" procmail -v 2>&1 ;; _help|_info) $echo "Known $X_COMMAND keywords:" $echo " subscribe mailaddress" $echo " unsubscribe mailaddress" $echo " checkdist mailaddress" $echo " showdist" $echo " showlog" $echo " wipelog" $echo " version" $echo " help" $echo " info" ;; *) $echo "X-Diagnostic: Unknown command $1" ; set dummy help ;; esac shift done The key differences between "do_admin" and and "x_commend" are below. The lines with exclamation points, $cat >$tmprequest ! $formail -R$X_COMMAND: X-Processed: <$tmprequest ! set dummy `$formail -x$X_COMMAND: <$tmprequest` ! shift; shift ! test "_$X_COMMAND_PASSWORD" = "_$1" && shift while $test $# != 0 do case "_$1" in are replaced with these: $cat >$tmprequest ! $formail -a X-Processed: <$tmprequest ! set dummy `egrep '^(subscribe|unsubscribe|checkdist|showdist|showlog|help|info |wipelog|version)' < $tmprequest` ! shift Basically, instead of looking for X-Commmand in the header, and then extracting the commands from those lines, the script looks for the commands as the appearing in the first column, and then works through those commands one-at-time as the previous script did. The password handling was removed, but with a little work could be added back in. For now, the check for the maintainer address is considered to be sufficient, though this could be spoofed, and something more robust is desirable for production use. The advantage of allowing the commands in the body of the message is that the user who is managing the list can use any mail client, and doesn't need to figure out how to create custom header lines. Here's an example of an admin message processed by the method described above: From: list_manager(a)domain.com To: list-request(a)list_domain.com Subject: admin unsubscribe old_user_address(a)old.com subscribe new_user_addr(a)new.com showdist

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mail.yahoo
by Patricia en Edwin 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

Hi, A lot of people (not all of them) who send us an email, receive an error message and we do not receive their mail. Our account is at Yahoo, but they don't seem to respond to our cry for help. Can you please HELP US !!! Patricia and Edwin patricia_edwin(a)yahoo.com taaltotaal(a)email.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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mail.yahoo
by Patricia en Edwin 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

Hi, A lot of people (not all of them) who send us an email, receive an error message and we do not receive their mail. Our account is at Yahoo, but they don't seem to respond to our cry for help. Can you please HELP US !!! Patricia and Edwin patricia_edwin(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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unsubbing accuracy problems
by Gary Casterline 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

Recently we've had problems with an unsubscribe request removing the wrong entry from the dist file. Any suggestions on how to increase up the accuracy of these requests? procmail/smartlist v3.15 2000/08/25 _Gary

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Fw: No bounce-detection
by Jelmer Jellema 04 Oct '00

04 Oct '00

Thought I'd share this with you before unsubscribing, sorry about this.... Will unsubscribe now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Summers" <charlie(a)lofcom.com> To: "Jelmer Jellema" <Jelmer(a)spininhetweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:34 PM Subject: Re: No bounce-detection > At 1:36 PM -0400 10/3/00, Jelmer Jellema is rumored to have typed: > > > This one not to the list: > > Good thing, too - at least you are only embarassing yourself with your > witty reparte in front of me, and not before the rest of the list as well. > > Charlie > > >

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filtering outgoing duplicates?
by Gary Funck 03 Oct '00

03 Oct '00

Anyone have a tip/suggestion on how to add a check for duplicates, before smartlist sends out a message? Sometimes list users mention the list address twice, in To: and Cc: lines for example, and it'd be nice to enusre that only one copy of the message goes out. I know that it is easy to set up a message-id cache in procmail - just wondering if there's a straightforward method for adding this filter to smartlist?

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How do I set up...
by MIke Tripp 01 Oct '00

01 Oct '00

Friends, I have a curious question. How do I go about setting up a web based post archive using my version of smartlist? Thanks, --Mike Tripp

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